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Hand saw restore
Intro and rust removal.

THE SAWS


Two years ago I bought an old English tool box full of old tools.


In the box lid there were two saws, a panel saw ‘Disston Canada’ and a tenon saw ‘W Tyzack Sons & Turner Sheffield’.


And when I dogged into the tools, there were also an old gentleman’s dovetail saw no makers mark just ‘made in Sheffield’.
It was here my dream of restoring some old saws started, but before this I had a long way to go with other tools.


Now two years later I also got hold of a hand full of saws and I feel confident enough to start restoring them.


A really ugly tenon saw from Spears and Jackson came with some planes I bought as a bonus…
I never really became sure if it was a bonus or a punishment.


I bought this beautiful saw from France it has been used by an old maker of frames for paintings, and judging from the screws it is an old boy.


Even it came from France it is a G. Buck Tottenham London.


Here the Tyzack showing his name and rust…


I bought four old panel saws ‘The fish’ (later known as Sandvik – Bahco) these Fish saws had belong to a Danish carpenter family for three generations so I was honored to get to give them a new chance.
Notice the second from the top, the blade has been sharpened so many times that it is probably an inch lower than when it was new. Two are with finer teeth, and two with more rough, just perfect when I will set them up later.


Ohhh yes and latest came this wonderful old Peugeot saw, yes we are talking the car maker!
This one will be a real pearl once it has been brought back to life.

REMOVING RUST


First step on the restore was to test some of that wonderful rust remover slime that Andy gave me.
Thank you Andy it was so kind of you to bring me this on your visit.


Leave to work.
(Not in the bathroom if you are married).


And brush of with a fine sandpaper sponge.
Look what a wonderful color it gets – bwader…


What a difference, and I use no power.


I think it leaves enough patina so I stop here, I don’t want them to look new.


Then a good tour with superfine steel wool and WD40 so they become clean and greased to prevent new rust.

SHORTEN DOWN


Since the one saw had been sharpened so much and I had several, I decided to shorten it down, to a little handy tool box saw.


Blade of and trying to determine where to cut it.


With a Dremmel tool I cut it over, and sanded the edge smooth.


Here a short saw.
(I’ll get back to the new brass screws later).

This is the end of blog one in this series.



Hope this blog can help some old wonderful saws come back to life, and that it might inspire others to restore and sharpen their own saws instead of buying modern crap saws.

I will like to thank Andy and Paul since you have both been a part of the reason why I feel now ready to start this adventure that I left waiting for me for a couple of years now.

Links:
Here you can see how to make a saw guard of wood: http://lumberjocks.com/mafe/blog/23514

Best thoughts,

Mads

-- Mad F, the fanatical rhykenologist and vintage architect. Democraticwoodworking.



19 comments so far

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saddletramp

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#1 posted 1121 days ago

Mads, you’re amazing!!

♫♪♪♫♫ There, ...... I’ve said it again! ♫♪♪♫♫

-- ♫♪♪♫♫ Saddletramp, saddletramp, I'm as free as the breeze and I ride where I please, saddletramp ♪♪♪♫♪ ...... Bob W....NW Michigan (Traverse City area)

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SASmith

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#2 posted 1121 days ago

Looking forward to this series Mads. I have never seen that rust remover before. Looks like it works great.
Thanks for sharing
Scott

-- Scott Smith, Southern Illinois

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SPalm

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#3 posted 1121 days ago

Simply amazing. I am awe struck by your collection.
Good for you.
I just love watching you work and puzzle through these things.

Steve

-- -- I'm no rocket surgeon

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Brit

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#4 posted 1121 days ago

Go Mads! Bring those babies back.

-- Andy -- Old Chinese proverb say: If you think something can't be done, don't interrupt man who is doing it.

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Jamie Speirs

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#5 posted 1121 days ago

Your having fun

Great Mads

jamie

-- Who is the happiest of men? He who values the merits of others, and in their pleasure takes joy, even as though 'twere his own. --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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Don W

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#6 posted 1121 days ago

If only we could clone your talent.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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Sodabowski

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#7 posted 1121 days ago

Wow, you didn’t lose your time this afternoon! DId you keep the part of the blade that you cut off? that’s perfect to make scrapers for sculpting plaster, I made several to my father a few years ago with an old crappy saw blade cut into strips.

-- Holy scrap Barkman!

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Paul Sellers

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#8 posted 1121 days ago

Go get em Mads, but leave some for your friends. What a great collection!

-- Paul Sellers, UK http://paulsellers.com/paul-sellers-blog

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Beginningwoodworker

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#9 posted 1121 days ago

Mad, thats a nice haul of hand tools.

-- CJIII Future cabinetmaker

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TopamaxSurvivor

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#10 posted 1121 days ago

AS long as you are dong that many Mads, could I send half a dozen to throw in? ;-))

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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Napoleon

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#11 posted 1121 days ago

Nice collection of saws. Congratulations

-- Boatbuilder&blacksmith

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mafe

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#12 posted 1121 days ago

Hi ho,
Saddletramp, big smile I think it’s called crazy!
Scott, yes it is amazing how effective this rust remover is, I have tried with acids and just vinegar these tend to go into the metal, but this stuff stays surface and are really easy to use.
Steve, I think you put the right word there, puzzle my way through, this is exactly how my blogs are, just plain me finding my way. I look forward to her what you think once they are all done.
Andy, yes I’m working on it. How about you, did you find time to sharpen, or shall we put our heads together before this step?
Jamie, yes I am, and loving every moment, is it that easy to see… lol. When I was young I had a nick name; ‘the happy man’, perhaps it stays…
Don, ohhh no, it is hard enough as it is, I do not wish for others to be in my head… Thank you.
Thomas, thank you for the time we spend today it was nice to see you. I did this last week not in Paris, I just blog when I have energy and time, so my blogs are not too often ‘real time’. Yes I saved the rest of the blade, eighter for a small hole saw or yes perhaps some nice scrapers.
Paul, I kind of hope you will blog about sharpening before I get to the end of the blog since I have not done this part yet… But I will do it no matter, at first I will make a wise for sharpening and blog that. Do not worry I will not look for more saws now, and if I should find one, I will sell another. For the dovetail saws I have a Veritas and are so happy for this one that I will stay with them.
CJ, yes a nive bunch, and what is amazing is that they were so low priced that I could not even buy a crappy plastic saw for the same price, so I cant wait to start using them.
Topa, big laugh, and a big NO, but I will be happy to guide you. ;-)_o
Napoleon, ;-) they will be thank you.
Best thoughts and thank you for the comments,
Mads

-- Mad F, the fanatical rhykenologist and vintage architect. Democraticwoodworking.

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murch

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#13 posted 1121 days ago

Mads, thats a potential treasure chest you opened there.
I’m looking forward to seeing the rest of the restore.

-- A family man has photos in his wallet where his money used to be.

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Brit

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#14 posted 1120 days ago

Hi Mads. I’m struggling to find the time to make a saw vice and sharpen my saws at the moment. I have done an awful lot of research on saw sharpening though and I shared the the best information that I have come across in CharleAuguste’s 1860 Dovetail Saw Restoration blog if you want to take a look.

The closest I’ve got to saws recently is eating one along with a screwdriver.

When I bit the end off the saw, I thought of you shortening your old Fish to make a toolbox saw. You’ve got to love Father’s day. :-)

-- Andy -- Old Chinese proverb say: If you think something can't be done, don't interrupt man who is doing it.

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mafe

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#15 posted 1119 days ago

Hmmm Andy I do have a sweet tooth! I’ll look at the link.
Murch, yes old stuff can become treasures, life is sweet.
Best thoughts,
Mads

-- Mad F, the fanatical rhykenologist and vintage architect. Democraticwoodworking.

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