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Blog entry by CharlesAuguste posted 06-12-2011 05:49 AM 2296 reads 6 times favorited 11 comments Add to Favorites Watch

Got this saw at a second hand store in Granville NY, looked pretty rough but i figured a little restoration and it will
shine again.Some poor soul had machine nuts and bolts holding the handle, luckily i had a couple of real saw nuts,
but unfortunately not split nuts like this saw had once born.
Actually i was lucky since i had to make the holes on the saw and handle bigger, wich gave me a great tight fit
for the handle. After cleaning the blade the makers name stamped on the upper blade “Patterson cast steel”,
a little research on the net and to find out that Mr Patterson made saws in California from 1860 to 1863.
How cool is that to bring that back to life!!
Also i found some time to make a blade cover or protector but this saw really needs a good sharpening!!
in the past isent a couple of saws to Cookes sharpening in PA with amazing results but hes no longer in business,
i really need to find a saw sharpener Any suggestions!!!!

-- "the future's uncertain and the end is always near" J. Morrison



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WayneC

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#1 posted 06-12-2011 05:52 AM

That is a pretty little saw. Thanks for bringing it back to life. I’m planning to learn to sharpen my own saws. Perhaps you could go that route (not suggesting you learn on this saw).

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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#2 posted 06-12-2011 02:59 PM

Nice restoration Charles and welcome to LJs. I have been restoring a few saws lately too. All I have left to do is sharpen them. I have been doing a considerable amount of reading on the subject which has proved very useful. Sometimes the information out there is contradictory, sometimes ambiguous and sometimes incomplete. However, I think I’ve got a handle on the process now so my next move will be to procure some files (appropriate to the TPI of the saws) and a saw set. I also need to make a saw vise. I think sharpening is a skill worth mastering and I’d encourage you to look into it. I also think that it is nowhere near as difficult as some people would have you think. Here are some links that you may find useful. After doing all the research, in my opinion this is the best information out there:

Saw Filing - A Beginner's Primer

Making a saw vise

If you want to buy a saw set, my advice would be to buy a Somax. There are two models: gold for 4 to 12 TPI and blue for 12 to 26 TPI. Both are available from Lee Valley
Saw files are available from a number of sources such as Lie Nielsen, Tools for Working Wood, etc. The following chart shows the file you need for a given saw.

I hope you find the this information useful. If restoring your Patterson has given you a taste for old saws, I would also recommend you read The Saw Blog. There is a lot of great information there that will enhance your knowledge.

-- Andy -- Old Chinese proverb say: If you think something can't be done, don't interrupt man who is doing it.

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#3 posted 06-12-2011 04:32 PM

Wow. Great info Andy.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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#4 posted 06-12-2011 04:34 PM

Thanks Wayne. I think I’m as expert as you can get now without ever having done it. LOL

-- Andy -- Old Chinese proverb say: If you think something can't be done, don't interrupt man who is doing it.

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#5 posted 06-12-2011 05:04 PM

super info I’ll have to book mark this page FMI. THANKS!

-- Ike, Big Daddies Woodshop, http://www.icombadaniels@yahoo.com

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#6 posted 06-12-2011 05:09 PM

Indeed Andy very usefull response for sure, definately something i would like to get into. I forgot to mention in my post that the saw is 14 tpi. I have probably a dozen of saws most where sharpened by cookes in pa, he did
a fantastic job, nevertheless most of them wont need sharpening for a while but good to know for sure!!!

-- "the future's uncertain and the end is always near" J. Morrison

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#7 posted 06-12-2011 05:12 PM

Also the saw sharpening service answer is in Andy’s post as well. Check out the Saw blog post. Matt is going into the sharpening business. Rates and contact info is posted.

http://thesawblog.wordpress.com/

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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#8 posted 06-12-2011 09:11 PM

Sharpening? Mark Harrell of Bad Axe Tool Works. He’d also split your nuts, I’m thinking. Used him on a tenon saw, can’t say enough about the quality of work he does…

http://www.badaxetoolworks.com/

Good luck, and Great Saw!

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive

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#9 posted 06-12-2011 10:45 PM

Smitty – Just for your information, Mark was so swamped with sharpening jobs that it was interfering with his core business which is making saws, so he has subbed the work to Matt at The Saw Blog. Link in my previous post.

-- Andy -- Old Chinese proverb say: If you think something can't be done, don't interrupt man who is doing it.

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#10 posted 06-12-2011 10:52 PM

I think I recently bought a Disston that looks really similar. http://lumberjocks.com/topics/27384 I’ve sharpened mine but haven’t got to the full cleanup yet.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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#11 posted 06-13-2011 04:37 PM

@Brit – Oh, wow, didn’t know that! Thanks for clarifying!

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive

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