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644 days ago

The Stanley #45

This thread will serve as a “companion” of sorts to the blog series that I’ll be working on with regards to the Stanley #45. In the blog I will be taking pictures in a sort of step-by-step process for setting up and performing certain tasks with the #45. I will also include a video of me making the cut as well. The intent is for it to act as a sort of visual reference on how a task can be performed.

I present this forum thread as a means of discussion, learning, and sharing our experiences with the #45. If you’ve got specific questions, or things that you’d like for me to try and then post, I’d like to hear it here.

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Blog Series
  1. Introduction and References
  2. Plowing a Groove
  3. Match Plane (Tongue and Groove)
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-- Mos - Twin Cities, MN -- Stanley #45 Evangelist - www.youtube.com/MosquitoMods


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#1 posted 644 days ago

I guess I’ll just start things out with a picture drop :-)

-- Mos - Twin Cities, MN -- Stanley #45 Evangelist - www.youtube.com/MosquitoMods

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#2 posted 644 days ago

Mos, this could prove to be a great thread, rivaling Handplanes, mallets or chiselers!

My question is on dating and identification of the different #45’s. Can you or someone go into detail about how to go about this?

I ordered a book on planes, not sure which one, but there isn’t enough information on the #45. I actually bought the book to help identify other Stanleys I look at.

The #45 seems to get short shrift in a lot of the Stanley nomenclature.

Thanks!

-- Improvise.... Adapt...... Overcome!

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#3 posted 644 days ago

And here’s my small collection, all probably mid-20th century.

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#4 posted 644 days ago

Mos:
Not sure if this is one of your links above: http://www.tooltrip.com/tooltrip9/stanley/comb-planes/45types/45types.htm

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#5 posted 644 days ago

Thanks Dallas, I really like my #45, and was frustrated by the lack of good references online on how to use it (more than just words on the screen) so I figured, why don’t I just do something about it…

The forum topic idea was Poopiekat’s. I just had the blog going at first.

For dating a #45, I have found it to be more difficult than with bench planes. I like this type study by Stan Faullin, to get a general ball park for most of the types. After that, it gets a little more tricky, because it’s a lot of trade mark differences from there on out. The difficult thing with that, is that they don’t all seem to match those of the bench planes so it’s a little more difficult.

I have ordered a #45 specific book, so we’ll see what I can learn from that.

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Edit, yup poopiekat, that’s the one by Stan Faullin that I’ve got listed. That one is probably my favorite of the two I’ve found so far.

-- Mos - Twin Cities, MN -- Stanley #45 Evangelist - www.youtube.com/MosquitoMods

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#6 posted 644 days ago

I went to the type studies you listed and narrowed my #45 down to either a 9-11 or a 13-15. The problem is, there are some anomalies that don’t follow through.
I have the screw adjustable fence of the 12- up, and the SW logo of the 13-15, but the main casting under the tote looks more like the 9-11 as do the thumb screws.
It may be a frankenplane made up of a number of different models, although the fellow that owned it was in his 80’s when he died and this one has obviously been used for many decades.

-- Improvise.... Adapt...... Overcome!

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#7 posted 644 days ago

It’s entirely possible that some parts are different. For example, my fence was broken and welded back together, perhaps something similar happened, and they just replaced the fence with a new one?

Have any pictures? Perhaps we could try to help narrow it down even further. The main casting pattern of 9-11 should be the same pattern as with 12+ (stippled). What does the depth adjuster have for texture around the outside?

-- Mos - Twin Cities, MN -- Stanley #45 Evangelist - www.youtube.com/MosquitoMods

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#8 posted 644 days ago

There’s quite a few videos on You-Tube, just do a search in You-tube for “Stanley 45 plane” and you’ll see perhaps 20 videos, relevant to the care and use of the #45.

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#9 posted 644 days ago

Nice post on the #45, Mos!

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#10 posted 644 days ago

I’ll try and get some pictures after work today and put them up.

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#11 posted 643 days ago

Mos, great post and idea. I will add to the conversation when I can.

-- It isn't the mountains ahead to climb that wear you out; it's the pebble in your shoe. - Muhammad Ali

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#12 posted 643 days ago

Looks like a freight train in this pic…

Short rods installed, playing with a #115 asymmetrical iron from a #55. Didn’t work very well…

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive

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#13 posted 643 days ago

is that one of the quarter round with beads ones? Mine came with an Ogee cutter, but I haven’t been adventurous enough to try it…

What was the issue you had Smitty? Requires too deep a cut? That’s what I figured the issue with them would be…

-- Mos - Twin Cities, MN -- Stanley #45 Evangelist - www.youtube.com/MosquitoMods

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#14 posted 643 days ago

I’ve had some problems with certain cutters. Seems like some profiles really need for your lumber to be stepped down first with a rabbet plane in order to work right.
Hey, as a side topic, maybe somebody can explain what it takes to sharpen the complex cutter profiles. I have a few crummy old slipstones, but they really don’t get the job done satisfactorily..

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#15 posted 643 days ago

Smitty: I see you have a depth stop AND a slitter on the same mount. Way cool, can you use both at the same time?

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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