NY in 96 in a dodge dynasty. Passed first try in the middle of a white out. My test started with "can you see that red dot?" "yes". "Then pull up to it and stop." It finished with "you've stopped too close to the stop sign and your front wheels are over the crosswalk line." "I don't believe so, are you certain?" The grader made a valiant attempt to look by opening the door and looking. "nevermind, there's at least 3" covering them and I can't see a thing, you can keep the point"