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Forum topic by MT_Stringer posted 12-02-2012 04:19 AM 1375 views 0 times favorited 20 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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12-02-2012 04:19 AM

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Actually my little Delta bench top drill press work really well…
until I put a 2 1/8 forstner bit in the chuck and tried to drill mape and white oak for candle holders! UGH!

Many years ago, I had a real drill press – industrial thang I got for free with no table. Someone had put something so heavy on the table it broke off. I guess I didn’t realize what a beast that thing was. I could drill all day long with the same forstner bit. The drill press is long gone but I still have the bit.

So, for you guys with the bigger drill presses, what should I be looking for? I don’t really have room for a floor model, but if that is what I need, so be it.

Looks like I need more horsepower. I have been running mine at the lowest speed and slowly feeding but it is agonizingly slow.

Drill press shout out. What say you?

Thanks
Mike

Note: 8-10 minutes at the drill press.

-- Handcrafted by Mike Henderson - Channelview, Texas


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#1 posted 12-02-2012 04:27 AM

Is your forstner bit sharp?

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#2 posted 12-02-2012 04:32 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eflrx90bJio
Had this one for a few years now , with no issues. : ) The table design is also a bonus for woodworkers !
Don’t know what your budget is , but I’m sure you will hear from the Grizzly clan , the Delta clan , and even the Harbor Freight clan.
Only you know what you want and need for features , so in the end , it will still be up to you : )
When was the last time you sharpened your bit ?

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#3 posted 12-02-2012 04:37 AM

Milwaukee Hole Hog if you don’t have room for a big drill press.

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#4 posted 12-02-2012 03:21 PM

footprint of a floor standing DP is greatly over-estimated. Not much more than a 30 pack of beer.

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#5 posted 12-02-2012 03:39 PM

What teejk said. A floor model takes up no more space than a 5 gallon bucket.
Put it in a corner diagonally and you should have plenty of side clearance for most projects.

The best value in floor presses right now is the 15” porter cable at Lowe’s. It’s a solid press, and you can get a bit off with a mover’s coupon or even more if you can get your store to accept a harbor freight 20% off coupon.

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#6 posted 12-02-2012 06:00 PM

Thanks for the replies.
Yep, the bit is sharp, I am just under powered.
Thanks for the link Dusty. Looks like a nice one indeed and well thought out.

Seems like it s always something. I really want to upgrade my table saw, but the upgraded drill press would also be a very good choice. Budget…hmmm not sure. I guess I will have to see how the Christmas orders pan out.
Maybe Santa can get one down the chimney. :-)
Mike

-- Handcrafted by Mike Henderson - Channelview, Texas

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#7 posted 12-02-2012 07:42 PM

I just viewed the tool section of your local Craigslist. I saw a few goodies, including the Porter-Cable that was previously mentioned. Asking $225, which really means you could get it for $190-200. Also saw a large craftsman and a powermatic.

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MT_Stringer

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#8 posted 12-02-2012 10:07 PM

“I just viewed the tool section of your local Craigslist. I saw a few goodies, including the Porter-Cable that was previously mentioned. Asking $225, which really means you could get it for $190-200. Also saw a large craftsman and a powermatic.”

Thanks. I have been looking at the tool section for some time. Seems like all of those listed have some sort of quirk like a broken handle, old and rusty, etc.

I did send the guy selling the craftsman 15 inch an email asking a couple of questions. The one for sale in Katy is a fair drive – at least 45 miles one way through Houston. Been there done that ain’t a pretty sight to drive in traffic. :-(

The one with the broken handle can be fixed for about $20 but then a new one with a warranty is only about $75 more.

Still looking.

-- Handcrafted by Mike Henderson - Channelview, Texas

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#9 posted 12-02-2012 10:17 PM

I think this is the best drill press you could find… http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/tor/tls/3407259780.html

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#10 posted 12-03-2012 02:16 AM

And it’s a benchtop to boot !
Seriously , a floor model really doesn’t take up that much space when you consider taking up your bench space instead. A mobile base is also a blessing : )

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#11 posted 12-03-2012 03:02 AM

There is a newish class of drill presses called heavy duty bench top drill presses. They have the same heads as there larger brothers but they sit on a short bench.

Grizzly: http://www.grizzly.com/products/12-Speed-Heavy-Duty-Bench-Top-Drill-Press/G7943

HF: http://www.harborfreight.com/heavy-duty-16-speed-bench-drill-press-38142.html

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#12 posted 12-03-2012 04:12 AM

Thanks for the replies.

So, I guess the question is how much horsepower does it take to drill the holes with forstner bits larger than 2 inches?

-- Handcrafted by Mike Henderson - Channelview, Texas

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#13 posted 12-03-2012 04:21 AM

It’s all about the torque ! Big bits need slow RPM and sharp cutting edges. If you can get the hex drive Forstner bits above 2” , you’ll be ahead of the game.

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MT_Stringer

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#14 posted 12-03-2012 04:42 AM

Thanks Dusty.
Here is a link to my DP. 1/4 hp motor. UGH. Confirms what I was thinking. Not enough OOMP!
I have been running it at it’s lowest speed but it bogs down with the big bit.

What I am trying to do is bore holes in hardwood – something similar to this.

I may buy a new bit tomorrow and try it. But it looks like the only way I can bore the large holes, is to upgrade the DP.

Those bench top models with 3/4 hp are looking better. I really don’t have the room for something else to sit on the floor. My space is too limited.

-- Handcrafted by Mike Henderson - Channelview, Texas

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MT_Stringer

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#15 posted 12-04-2012 04:06 AM

Problem solved!
On my way to Woodcraft this morning, I stopped off at Northern Tool to check out their drill presses.
I like the look of this one. It has a 3/4hp motor and is the same as the floor model, just shorter. :-)

I liked the handles. Very comfortable to use. And the left side has the adjustable depth stop not the little coller with a thumbscrew.

So, it followed me home.

The reason I went to Woodcraft was to buy a new bit – a Colt Max cut 2 1/8 inch Forstner bit. Before taking my Delta drill press out of service, I tried the new bit, and sure enough, it did bore the hole. It just took a little bit, but it turned out clean and smooth. I guess my old bit wasn’t as sharp as I thought.

So after setting up the new press, and doing some test drilling, I put the big bit on and tried it with the same type of wood (white oad branch about three inches thick). It bored the hole in one easy pass – no bogging or anything. I had the speed set at 920 rpms. This will work for me.

It is taller than the other drill press. I might have to build an 8 inch step stool to get me up a little higher. :-)

-- Handcrafted by Mike Henderson - Channelview, Texas

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