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Blog entry by Chris Davis posted 04-23-2008 02:37 PM 1690 reads 0 times favorited 32 comments Add to Favorites Watch

Referring to my live shop feed, I’ve had a lot of people say to me “I don’t know if I could stand people watching everything I do….You’d have to be on your best behavior“, and you do. I don’t have much to hide or to worry about, if I compare myself to other people or other things you find on the internet. God sees everything anyway so shouldn‘t we be on our best behavior all the time. Even more than that He has seen even those secret sins that we’ve done. If that is the case I am in real big trouble. I have just about broken each of the 10 commandments. I’ve lied, stolen, blasphemed the name of God. He even sees those secret sins that the camera can’t pick up. He sees the hatred, which is like murder (see 1 John 3:15) and lust as adultery (Mat 5:28). You may be okay with keeping some of the commandments, but the bible says that if you’ve broken one your guilty of breaking them all.

Once we stop comparing ourselves to others and look at how God sees us, we quickly find out how guilty we are. Just as an earthly judge must punish the guilty, how mush more should a just and holy God punish the guilty. All liars, shall have their part in the lake of fire (Rev 21:8). No thieve shall inherit the kingdom of God (1 Cor 6:10). Every idle word that men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment (Matt 12:36).

God did a wonderful thing for us so that we will not have to go to hell. He sent is only Son, Jesus, to pay that penalty for us, that sin debt that we can not pay. Jesus said that “I am the way the truth the life no one come to the father but through me”. God is not going to just forgive us, the debt must be satisfied. We can have those sins forgiven and enjoy eternal life, but we must repent (turn form our sins and our self, believing we can get ourselves to heaven) and put our trust in Him only. Romans 10:9 “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.”

I know this isn’t really a woodworking theme, but it is something that has been on my heart, but Jesus was a carpenter and He did die on a wooden cross. What a sacrifice.

-- Watch live video from our shop.!current-projects/c3c1

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Todd A. Clippinger

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#1 posted 04-23-2008 03:13 PM

I would prefer to keep this site belief neutral.

-- Todd A. Clippinger, Montana,

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#2 posted 04-23-2008 03:16 PM

I completely agree with Todd on this one. There are plenty of other places that you can talk on these matters.

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Martin Sojka

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#3 posted 04-23-2008 03:22 PM

It’s be great to avoid political and religious topics at completely. Past discussions prove this. I’m thinking about adding this to the posting rules.

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#4 posted 04-23-2008 03:33 PM

I don’t mind and expression of belief or inspiration from a religious perspective. It gives us a little insight into the individuals we’re talking with. However, I don’t think this is the place for sermons.

-- Working at Woodworking

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#5 posted 04-23-2008 03:55 PM

Each time somebody tries to push their religious views on me on a woodworking or similar forum I place them gently on my ignore list.
I am supportive of all religions and I endorse the right to believe whatever you may wish.

Just keep it to yourself here.

I have refrained from commenting for several months now but it would seem that some of you lack the manners necessary to respect the others in this community.


-- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner

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#6 posted 04-23-2008 03:57 PM

I’m a Christian, but I can see what the guys are talking about. On the one hand, this is your own personal blogspace. On the other hand, it’s part of a community site and people don’t have a choice about whether or not to see your entry on the home page (until it gets bumped by newer entries, that is).

So my advice for you? Play it “safe”. Talk more openly about your faith on your private website. On LumberJocks, I don’t think people mind hearing people talk about their faith (look at many signature lines and you’ll see Bible verses), but they would rather this be a community focused directly on woodworking. Incorporate your faith into your woodworking posts, and you’ll most likely not find any objections.

Just my $0.02. Appreciate you, brother!

-- Eric at

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#7 posted 04-23-2008 03:57 PM

Maybe your beliefs could be posted on your intro page?

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#8 posted 04-23-2008 04:00 PM

Martin, I do wish you would add ‘Avoid political and religious topics’ to the posting rules. If it takes a vote, I vote yes.

-- Berta in NC

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#9 posted 04-23-2008 04:05 PM

I somewhat agree. I’m am Christian to begin with (an alter server too) and i don’t want this site turning into a place where people are preaching everyday but from what I saw Chris is just answering the question “I don’t know if I could stand people watching everything I do….You’d have to be on your best behavior“ in his own way and in what he believes. I don’t think there is a problem with this or saying that God has an influence on your woodworking but I do also think that I don’t want to have to look at every post and have someone trying to shove religion in my face. but from what I see in this blog Chris is just answering what he thinks of the question “I don’t know if I could stand people watching everything I do….You’d have to be on your best behavior“. Not trying to fling religion in our faces and trying to convert us. Just my though on the issue.

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Chris Davis

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#10 posted 04-23-2008 04:05 PM

Temontim, thanks for the advice. I’ll try putting something about me on by personal page. I don’t mean to push religion. That is not how people come to Christ. I know somethimes people will put their thoughts iin their blog.

-- Watch live video from our shop.!current-projects/c3c1

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#11 posted 04-23-2008 04:20 PM

im glad martin made his post on this . i see a lot of tag lines with scriptures on them ,personally i really dont have a problem with that . i think its a way for the christians among us to identify each other and pm each other with comments concerning thier faith if they want . my tag probably causes some folks an unwelcome visual ! or other may think im professing my self the lead dog . in fact what im professing is to know exactly what the scenery is when your not ! lol have a nice day !

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#12 posted 04-23-2008 04:21 PM

No religion or politics.

-- Gary - Never pass up the opportunity to make a mistake look like you planned it that way - Tyler, TX

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#13 posted 04-23-2008 04:22 PM

I believe LJ has grown this way because of the large body of woodworking related discussions. Who here doesn’t have strong opinions one way or the other? I don’t know what would ensue if we all expressed our strongly held beliefs and philosophy of how we live. This site might become a forum for discussions less to do with woodworking and more to debate faith and life styles.

OTOH, I am not for limiting one’s right to express one’s thoughts. This is after all your blog.

-- Praki, Aspiring Woodworker

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#14 posted 04-23-2008 04:32 PM

I’m a practicing Christian too and while I don’t see anything wrong with a passing mention of belief or the wonders of our Lord in a post, the site is not the place for a sermonizing or witnessing. I agree with the majority opinion above.

-- If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free! PJ O'Rourke

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#15 posted 04-23-2008 05:06 PM

I tend to try and follow the Sammy Kershaw song and not talk about….....Politics, Religion, and Her.

-- Adrian ..... The 11th Commandment...."Thou Shalt Not Buy A Wobble Dado"

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