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Blog entry by Scott H. posted 03-14-2011 at 10:12 PM 861 reads 0 times favorited 9 comments Add to Favorites Watch

I am wanting to purchase a planer. I am kind of at a stand still because I don’t know weather to get a planer with steel blades or with a spiral cutterhead.
-The G0453Z is a 15” Grizzly planer with the spiral cutterhead at $1,525.00…
-G0454 is a 20” with the standard blades @ $1,575.00…
-There is also the G0453 15” with standard blades at $1,050.00…
I do not know how long the standard blades will last. The spiral cutterhead has carbide blades that you can turn when they get dull or chipped and they say that it is a lot more quiet. I was thinking if I do get the 20” that I can get the spiral cutterhead down the road. I have been told that the carbide squares last like 4 to 5 times as long just on one side. then you still have 3 more sides to use. I thought maybe someone out there with more experience might be able to lead me in the right direction. I am kind of partial to Grizzly products. Though if someone has another brand they would recommend at around $1,500.00, I am keeping an open mind.

I have a Grizzly 10”cabinet table saw and a Grizzly 17” band saw. I am very satisfied with them both, For the price I don’t think they can be beat.

Thank you for any ideas or assistance.
Scott

-- The Lord guides my way. Though sometimes I stray, I know he is always with me!



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lilredweldingrod

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#1 posted 03-14-2011 at 10:25 PM

About all I can add is: if you get the planer with straight blades, be sure they are 1/8” thick. The 1/16” can not be resharpened.

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Scott H.

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#2 posted 03-14-2011 at 10:28 PM

About how long do the standard blades last when cutting hardwood? say… How many board feet?

-- The Lord guides my way. Though sometimes I stray, I know he is always with me!

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Bearpie

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#3 posted 03-14-2011 at 10:45 PM

In comparing life of tools with carbide versus high speed-high tensile strength steel, I would choose carbide cause they last so much longer and looks like price is about the same? Go with CARBIDE! That’s my opinion.

Erwin, Jacksonville, FL

-- Erwin, Jacksonville, FL

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SWM

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#4 posted 03-14-2011 at 10:48 PM

I went through this about 2 months ago. I was looking for a heirloom planer that would long outlast me. I was sick and tired of the obnoxiously loud lunchbox planer from Sears (albeit the darn thing did work pretty well if I took the time to set it up and clamp it down to work safely).

I went back and forth between the straight blades and carbide blades. Ultimately, I found a deal on the 15” Shop Fox with straight knives at a local tool supplier’s warehouse. It is identical to the grizzly that G0453 that you referenced. I will say that I was impressed at the heft of the machine. No all the castings and machining was not to powermatic specs, but it was about 50% the cost of the Powermatic. Absolutely everything is adjustable and serviceable on these machines. That’s a good thing if you plan to keep for a long time.

Back to the cutter heads. There’s lots of questions that you’ll have to answer. What type of wood do you typically work with? Is it prone to tear out? How often will you use the machine. Personally, my planer gets used a couple hours per week, if I’m in the shop so I wasn’t too concerned with the blades holding up to a 40 hour work week. I bought a spare set of blades for $50 that I intend to use as spare. I can have the old blades sharpened as needed.

I will say that I have priced the add-on cutter heads. They are as expensive, or even more so, to purchase and add on later. Plus you get to go through the headache of changing the head, bearings, etc. If I thought that I would every need/want the helical head. I would purchase it now just to not go through the aggrevation.

I would suggest that you look around for reviews of the helical heads. I’m not convinced that they are idiot proof either.

All that being said. Just buy one and let us know how it goes. We’ll cheer you on!

-- Working on a retirement hobby, only 30 more years to practice!

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woodworkerscott

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#5 posted 03-14-2011 at 10:50 PM

I second what lilredweldingrod says. The thin knives, although usually double-edged, are made to be disposable. I do know a precision sharpener that says he can do it, but I haven’t taken him up on it yet. I like the traditional straight knife just fine, and it is affordable. Get the thicker ones as mentioned.

How long they will last is hard to predict. The type of hardwood (not all the same hardness), depth of cut, etc., are all factors to consider. I have had a set last months with heavy use, then have a set go dull in a couple of days. I do recommend getting a planer with three knives , if possible. I have not heard anything bad about Grizzly and will consider buying one from them next time.

I have a Steel City planer with three knives and dual speed that I got on sale, brand new. I would not recommend this brand to anyone and will NEVER buy a Steel City planer again. If they offered me one free I would pass, unless I wanted to take it to sell for the money. Steer clear of Steel City.
Hope this helps!

-- " 'woodworker'.....it's a good word, an honest word." - Sam Maloof

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Scott H.

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#6 posted 03-14-2011 at 10:58 PM

I guess I should have added in the above that I would use it about 2 to 4 hours a week.

-- The Lord guides my way. Though sometimes I stray, I know he is always with me!

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bubbyboy

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#7 posted 03-14-2011 at 11:28 PM

This is the exact planer I bought about a year ago G0453Z is a 15” Grizzly planer with the spiral cutterhead at $1,525.00…
It does everything it says it does and more. I love it. The cutters are easy to change or rotate as needed. I have used it on many different types of hardwood without so much as a hiccup. I would buy it again right now if I was looking for one.

-- I just don't understand. I have cut it 3 times and it is still to short.

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147clay

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#8 posted 03-15-2011 at 01:02 PM

Don’t buy any Jointer or planer unless it has spiral cutterhead

I have both and used both 2 yrs and still haven’t turned any cutters, knots are no problem

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Scott H.

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#9 posted 03-30-2011 at 07:00 PM

It’s on it’s way!!! The Grizzly G0453Z 15” planer is on it’s way!!! I can’t wait! I have about 2,000 board feet of Hard maple to plane. It has been in my garage “work shop” for about two months while I decide on which planer to get. I have received several opinions and looked over allot of reviews and decided to go for it. I will let everyone know when it arrives.

-- The Lord guides my way. Though sometimes I stray, I know he is always with me!

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