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I’ve always been hesitant about joining facebook. This article kind of hit home to me.

After reading this I don’t think I’ve missed much of anything.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Published August 31 2009 | Duluth News Tribune.
ACLU issues Facebook privacy warning
The ACLU of Northern California is employing a cautionary Facebook quiz of its own to illustrate how quizzes that may seem “perfectly harmless” can release an array of data to the wider world — including users’ “religion, sexual orientation, political affiliation, photos, events, notes, wall posts, and groups.”
By: Scott Duke Harris, San Jose Mercury News
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SAN JOSE, Calif. — Privacy advocates have long warned that users of Facebook and other social networks who seek amusement from quizzes like “What Simpsons Character Are You?” might be mortified by the way creators of such applications can access and potentially “scrape” personal information — not just about the quiz-takers, but their friends.

Now, engaging in some online jujitsu, the ACLU of Northern California is employing a cautionary Facebook quiz of its own to illustrate how quizzes that may seem “perfectly harmless” can release an array of data to the wider world — including users’ “religion, sexual orientation, political affiliation, photos, events, notes, wall posts, and groups.”

The app, titled “What Do Facebook Quizzes Know About You?” delivers its answer by opening a window that scrolls biographical data, attributed comments and photos.

More than 8,000 participants had taken the ACLU’s quiz by Wednesday, a few days after it was released. The group hopes to prompt Facebook to upgrade privacy default settings for its

250 million-plus users.

One helpful upgrade, the civil liberties group said, would be for Facebook to “change default privacy settings so that quizzes and other third-party applications run by a user’s friends do not have access to the information on a user’s profile without the user’s opt-in consent.”

Facebook users considering such applications as quizzes typically see a page that provides a choice of “allow” or “cancel.” The boilerplate language notes that allowing access “will let it pull your profile information, photos, your friends’ info, and other content that it requires to work.” But many Facebook users ignore the warning or don’t comprehend the potential risks, the ACLU said.

The Palo Alto, Calif.-based service has been buffeted by criticism from a variety of privacy advocates, and in some cases has found ways to resolve complaints. “We’ve also had productive discussions with the Cana dian Privacy Commissioner about improving user data controls on Platform,” said Barry Schnitt, Facebook’s director of policy communications. “We’d be glad to also have productive discussions with the ACLU and generally catch them up, too.”

Chris Conley, a technology fellow with the ACLU, said creating a Facebook quiz seemed an apt means for spreading word about privacy risks inherent in such apps. “We wanted to use Facebook itself to show how all these quiz creators have access to personal information,” Conley said.

It is difficult to know how third-party app developers use the data, which can be collected and sold for marketing and advertising campaigns, Conley said. Private investigators and political entities are known to create dossiers using technologies that automatically scour the Web. An individual bombarded by spam, for example, may have been targeted because of an affiliation posted on Facebook.

The text of ACLU’s quiz put it in ominous terms: “Once details about your personal life are collected by a quiz developer, who knows where they could end up or how they could be used. Shared? Sold? Turned over to the government?”

The group acknowledged the irony of its approach: “We know it’s a little weird to warn you about Facebook quizzes by asking you to take a Facebook quiz — but at least you know who we are and that we have a real privacy policy that we’re committed to upholding. Can you say the same for every unknown author of every quiz you or your friends take?”

-- -** You are never to old to set another goal or to dream a new dream ****************** Dick, & Barb Cain, Hibbing, MN. http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/gallery/member.php?uid=3627&protype=1


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Karson

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#1 posted 1693 days ago

I’m with you Dick. I hope that Martin doesn’t put out a questionaire.

-- I've been blessed with a father who liked to tinker in wood, and a wife who lets me tinker in wood. Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

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MsDebbieP

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#2 posted 1693 days ago

Facebook can be a great tool .. but you have to think about what you do when you use it ..

the Canadian court case has been finalized i think, and Facebook will have its privacy changes completed by the end of the year.

the “Scam” awareness is vital for computer users. I think I’m rather savvy but still get caught by surprise by the unknown, underhanded, unethical, un, un, un,.. privacy issues.

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (https://www.facebook.com/DebbiePribeleENJOConsultant)

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jockmike2

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#3 posted 1693 days ago

You are very right Dick. I joined then when when a person asked to be my friend who had the same name as my cousin, I quickly learned it was a world wide scam and I was on the list of 400 other people from all over the world and this women was a come-on to lure people to her website to sell a product. I had to quickly warn all that were on my facebook and shut down my pictures, I still don’t know if others can see them. It’s scary. You got to be careful.

-- (You just have to please the man in the Mirror) Mike from Michigan -

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#4 posted 1693 days ago

I am an avid user of facebook I don’t do the quizes anymore. And if I don’t know the person i don’t accept their friend request. Facebook is a great tool to keep in contact with friends and family. I also use it to post my projects and blogs from Lumberjocks so I don’t have to post it twice. If used properly facebook (just like any other social site) is a great communication tool. So I guess the point is that it is up to the individual yo decide how to use it. Good or bad. I was afraid to use it for a long time now i love it.

To each his/her own i guess

-- www.carvingandturningsbyrick.com, Rick Kruse, Grand Rapids, MI

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john

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#5 posted 1693 days ago

I,m with you Rustic

-- John in Belgrave (Website) http://www.extremebirdhouse.com , http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=112698715866

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Dick, & Barb Cain

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#6 posted 1693 days ago

It’s nice to hear everyones opinion, so keep them coming.

-- -** You are never to old to set another goal or to dream a new dream ****************** Dick, & Barb Cain, Hibbing, MN. http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/gallery/member.php?uid=3627&protype=1

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Kindlingmaker

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#7 posted 1693 days ago

The internet is a remarkable tool but I do miss my pencil and paper and that building in town, whats it called? Oh, the library…

-- Never board, always knotty, lots of growth rings

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CanadaJeff

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#8 posted 1693 days ago

In Canada, Facebook hit the news recently, because what it does with the information provided seems to violate Canadian privacy laws.

I use facebook to keep in touch with friends, its a fantastic website, but you do have to be careful. Anything you post is pretty much recorded and kept, even if you delete your account the info still stays. So tread lightly if your using it.

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closetguy

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#9 posted 1693 days ago

Most the bad experiences people have with Facebook is because they brought it on themselves. I use it regularly because my family and kids, are scattered throughout different States. It’s a great way to keep up with what everyone is doing and I get to see pictures of Nieces and Nephews growing up. It’s when you start running all the applications that share your information with who knows what, that issues develop. I get requests for people to be my friend all the time. I just delete them. My middle daughter is a flight attendant, and updates her Facebook page each day from her cell to let everyone know where she is overnighting that day. This keeps me from calling her to see where she is and when she is coming home. Of course, I did find a couple old girlfriends from the 70s…...you never know what may pop up as a friend suggestion.

These social networking sites are the younger generation’s equivalent to the CB radio days of the 70s. It’s their way of keeping up with friends. Some of us old guys and gals warm up to it, and some don’t.

-- I don't make mistakes, only design changes....www.dgmwoodworks.com

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Dick, & Barb Cain

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#10 posted 1693 days ago

I’m from the two tin cans, & a string age, no one bothered us them days.

I never dreamed of a computer, or even TV.

Radio, & bakelite records where the thing.

-- -** You are never to old to set another goal or to dream a new dream ****************** Dick, & Barb Cain, Hibbing, MN. http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/gallery/member.php?uid=3627&protype=1

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Kindlingmaker

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#11 posted 1693 days ago

Dick, & Barb Cain, YES! I still have some 78’s with Daina Shore!

-- Never board, always knotty, lots of growth rings

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Dick, & Barb Cain

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#12 posted 1693 days ago

Kindlingmaker,

I sold almost all of my parents old records during a WW II war scrap drive.

I guess they made some war equipment with them.

We have a George Gershwins Blues in the Night album.

-- -** You are never to old to set another goal or to dream a new dream ****************** Dick, & Barb Cain, Hibbing, MN. http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/gallery/member.php?uid=3627&protype=1

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firecaster

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#13 posted 1693 days ago

I’m talking to people I haven’t seen since high school 30 years ago. All you have to do is not do the quizzes or games. Some people seem addicted to them. Mafia Wars, Farmville, etc. Maybe there needs to be a Woodworking game.

-- Father of two sons. Both Eagle Scouts.

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Lee A. Jesberger

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#14 posted 1693 days ago

Hi Dick,

Even with the string and cans, someone can tie a string to your string and intercept your messages! LOL

As with everything, caution is in order.

Lee

-- by Lee A. Jesberger http://www.prowoodworkingtips.com http://www.ezee-feed.com

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mmh

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#15 posted 1693 days ago

Facebook should be used wisely and with some discretion. Your posts, as here, are seen by anyone, but Facebook attracts a lot of postings that can be pure “rubbish”, just jibber-jabber, not having much value.

I like to use it to help advertise my canes and I have also had good fortune in locating old friends, so there are some positive sides to the website. However, I do not like to spend hours of gabbing when I can be in the wood workshop abraising a piece of wood as oppose to a person }:)~

Consider it similar to censoring your daily intake of the world via the television, newspaper, magazines, radio, etc.. If you get too engrossed in any one of them, you get inundated with too much information or “jabber”. Time to turn off the PC, TV, Talk Radio or put down the newspaper and head for the workshop.

Go make some sawdust in peace!

-- "They who dream by day are cognizant of many things which escape those who dream only by night." ~ Edgar Allan Poe

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