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DrDirt

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1821 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: tablesaw

Just got the latest Woodcraft brochure offering the Professional SawStop at 2899.

There was a blog some 3-4 months ago when this product was first announced and it included the basic specifications of the saw.

My question is how does it compare with the original industrial saw. Looking at it, it is not a hybrid, but I am wondering what they did to bring the price down so much. What does one give up? it is still a 10” 3HP unit. Has anyone done a side by side of these?

Cheers

-- "If we did all the things we are capable of doing, we would literally astonish ourselves." Edison


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CharlieM1958

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#1 posted 1821 days ago

The specs are pretty similar. The industrial has a slightly larger table, and the cabinet foorprint is a little bigger. The most glaring difference is that the industrial saw weighs twice what the professional saw does. So I’m guessing the biggest difference is in the thickness of materials used in the saws construction.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#2 posted 1821 days ago

Dave, I have not done a side by side for these saws. But here are a couple of names that should be able to field any questions you would have.

Dylan Walter
Dylan@Sawstop.com
503-682-3497

Tom Berkley
Tom@Sawstop.com
503-582-9934

Dylan is in sales and Tom handles technical issues. I have found both to be extremely helpful and I am sure they would not mind getting the info to you. By the way they are located in Oregon.

-- Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful- Joshua Marine

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Mike Lingenfelter

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#3 posted 1821 days ago

What Charlie said, and the trunnions on the PCS are different and somewhat smaller. The new dust collection is only on the PCS model right now. Also the ICS is meant to be hardwired in and you have the choice of some larger motors. I ordered the PCS awhile back and just found out it should be in tomorrow or Friday :).

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reggiek

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#4 posted 1821 days ago

It sounds like a nice saw…but came too late for my acquisition…it is still over $1,000.00 above the Grizzly…but the safety feature is priceless when you suddenly have a need for it….I would have gotten one if it was available when I really needed it….I’m looking forward to some reviews when it comes out….who knows…if it turns out really good…it may be worth a harder look…

-- Woodworking.....My small slice of heaven!

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skidooman93

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#5 posted 1821 days ago

I have been using one of the new saws since the end of march. I had been shopping for a SS when the field test program dropped in my lap. In th past 4 months I have used my saw extensivly and am very happy with it. The major differences between the ICS saw (industrial cabinet saw- orginal) and the new PCS (professional cabinet saw) are table depth, size of motor choices, and trunion. The trunion on the new PCS saw is lighter than the ICS saw. Then new trunion is comparable in size and mass to the new Delta Uni or the PM2000. The table depth is 3” less now a 27” deep saw. The other large wieght saver is the dust collection shroud on the PCS saw is plastic like all of shrouds I know of. The dust shroud on the old ICS saw is cast iron. SS says that dust collection on the new PCS saw is easier to control and manipulate with a plastic shroud than with the old cast ironl. The PCS saw also comes with a dust collecting guard that suposidly collects 99% of all dust, pretty impressive. I cannot comment on that my saw did not come with the new guard, I am suposed to get the updated parts soon. The new PCS saw also has a toolless throat plate, it is really cool, one less allen wrench to worry about.

I really cannot say enough about the new saw. The fit and finish again is second to none, the power of the 3hp is impressive. I went from a 3hp SC saw to the 3hp SS and the SS feels like it has alot more power. I wasn’t a huge fan of the fence at 1st. It is basically a Bies painted black and SS calls it a T-glide. Steel City’s industrial fence it a better fence in my opinion, but the SS has grown on me. The instruction on how to adjust the fence from SS left the fence with too much slop before lock down. It had the tendoncy of moveing while locking it down. Someone over at sawmill creek came up with a better way of adjusting the fence. It now slides soothly but doesn’t move when locking it down. The mobile base is real nice it is integral in the cabinet so the saw sets down on the floor when in use so is rock solid. From my comparisons it is equal to the new Uni and the PM2000 in construction, and equal to the new uni in price.

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#6 posted 1821 days ago

Fine woodworking.com has a write up about it.

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#7 posted 1820 days ago

I think the new SawStop is price with the hobbiest in mind.

-- CJIII Future cabinetmaker

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skidooman93

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#8 posted 1820 days ago

I know a local high school that just took delievery of 2 new PCS saws last week. I helped them put them together. They are replacing 2 10 year old uni’s that had performed well and are still going. The department chair that ordered the saws looked over them well and compared them to their older uni’s. His conclusions were that the new PCS saw looks better built than the uni’s they were replacing so they should last.

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DrDirt

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#9 posted 1819 days ago

Thanks skidooman and everybody – I think the professional saw will be on the Christmas wish list…

I presently have a Unisaw, one of the more basic versions, from Woodworkers Supply that I got in 2002 for ~$1350, which included a mobile base, Biesmeyer fence and 52 inch capacity. I have no complaints, but I have used the Industrial Saw Stop a number of times at Marc Adams School and like the technology, and based on their experience, I think that the system is debugged.
I have been considering the upgrade becuase it always seems that I ‘only’ get to the shop after a long day working for da Man. And I have three kids now at 7, 8, and 10 years old that like to join me, and as their skills will improve, and I continue to watch them – I am concerned about the “ONE time” I turn my back or go get something from inside the house…....I personally would find it hard hard to console myself about not tolerating the extra expense while we driving to the emergency room with my kids fingers inside an ice chest.

I am looking at this as a one time investment representing a cheap extra insurance policy for preteens/teens who are not known for having long attention spans….to keep them intact to adulthood.

-- "If we did all the things we are capable of doing, we would literally astonish ourselves." Edison

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