At first, I thought it was from the foam pads on the Rockler clamps. it was a hot day and I was sweating, so I thought maybe some of it rubbed off on me. but these usually come off with soap and water. and my hands could not be cleaned with ANYTHING. I used soap and water, I used the FastOrange pumice cleaner, I used Green Scotchbrite pad and almost rubbed my skin off – but it wouldn’t clean the black stuff off… the good thing is the black stuff wouldn’t rub off on the towels, and everything else as well, so at least I wasn’t making things dirty, but I still would like to know how to clean this off, and more important – to know where its coming from.
another thought was that it’s coming off of a #6 Foreplane I just restored and used on this project, but I took the plane several times after, and held it without getting blackened.
The last thought that came to mind was, that it’s coming from a chemical reaction in the wood I was using – either maple (I doubt it) or the mahogany (makes more sense to me. but I never saw that before), reacting to glue (I only use Titebond I)? or sweat?
does anyone have experience with such a thing? and maybe an insight to what’s causing it? I WOULD like to avoid it in the future, or at least know how to clean this off.
Thanks in advance!
P.S. The reason I’m asking this is because I might make the handles for the workbench vises out of mahogany – which would get constant use – but if the mahogany is what’s causing this – then that would be a poor choice of material
-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.
I’m not sure about the cause or the solution, but your plight did remind me of that forum topic a while back questioning why we did not have more black members here at Lumberjocks.
I’m glad to see you doing your part to help out. :-)
Could it be a combination of the wood and plane? Much like the nasty stains left by clamps on oak? A reaction of the sweat on you hands leaching tanic acid out of the wood the you grabing the fore and causing the usual reaction? Just a thought.
-- Jimmy, Oklahoma "It's a dog-eat-dog world, and I'm wearing milkbone underwear!"
Thanks for the replies… more entertaining than informative – but thats good stuff too :)
Charlie – I’m doing my best…. whatEVER it takes !
Karson – do you have MJ’s doc contact info by any chance? maybe I’d give him a call (ok… that might be considered a bit over the top)
bayspt – I thought it might be something similar, but I wasn’t using oak, and I haven’t heard of Maple doing the same thing. which what led me to think – maybe Mahogany does?!? but I don’t really know.
John – definitely not glue, as it happened 2 times, and I usually don’t have contact with the glue with my palms – maybe sometimes just with 2 fingers…
-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.
sometimes when i spin mahogany, like walnut and oak , my hands get stained from the acids in the woods reacting with the sweat from my hands, the only thing i have found to remove the staining is vinager, it smells bad but it works pretty well. hope this helps.
-- Roper - Master of sawdust-www.coloradocustomworks.com
Thanks Roper- this is good to know. my wife uses vinegar to clean everything – so I have some at hand (I guess that would be literally when the time comes…)
the reason I’m asking this is because I might make the handles for the workbench vises out of mahogany – which would get constant use – but if the mahogany is what’s causing this – then that would be a poor choice of material
-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.
My first thought was that it must be from a tool. If your getting the heat I’m getting I imagine that some of the plastic compounds on handles or related may rub off. My only other thought would be if you were using a dye or similar and spilt in the past.
Perhaps throw on a pair of gloves and rub your hands all over the tools you used when this happened maybe you can reproduce the blackening.
I know its not the nicest stuff, but perhaps paint thinner would take it off.
Jeff, I tried reproducing it – but like murphy stated before -when you try, it won’t work… it only works when you don’t want it to.
poroskywood – thanks for the lemon juice idea – that, and the previously suggested vinegar might do the trick as natural cleaners. as for the gasoline – I’m trying to keep my MPG as high as possible…
-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.
Maybe from that black stuff on the bottom of the bowling alley? I know I have been getting black hands allot lately from all the construction adhesive I am usuing….its waterproof and you cant really see it that good till it dries then its too late!
Thanks David, but the tar on the bottom of the bowling alley is long gone, and since it’s tar, it’s rubbery and solid, and comes off real easy (within reason).
I wasn’t using any new materials, or adhesives, or anything of that sort. I was bend laminating the mahogany on the maple leg vise. using titebond I glue, and the rockler clamps… and trimmed it with the metal hand plane… that’s about it all that was in the equation.
-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.
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