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Kevin

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08-16-2009 10:03 PM

Hi, i’m new here and looking for some advice on which table saw to purchase. I recently thought about grizzly also, but i’ve heard bad stories on their packaging though and some with tuning the TS out of the box.

Here is what i’m currently thinking of purchasing. What are your opinions on these. Good and bad and which one would you get.

Thanks,

Kevin

Jet JPS-10XL30CW model 708482K List: 1211.00 Sale: 999.99
Delta model 36-982 List: 1701.00 Sale: 999.99

Links:
http://www.cpowoodworking.com/table_saws/36-982.html
http://www.cpojettools.com/products/708482k.html#

Both offer free ground shipping so i’m assuming that it will coming from freight instead of UPS?

Anymore information that you guys need I will provide.

Thanks again,

Kevin

-- Williamsburg, KY


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PurpLev

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#1 posted 08-16-2009 10:08 PM

the Jet – hands down! it’s a hybrid, compared to the delta which is a contractor. the Jet has a better transfer of power over a shorter belt, and the motor is completely enclosed in the cabinet. with all due respect to the biesmeyer fence – I liked the Jet better (I used both).

with that said , for $1k there are better options out there. I haven’t personally heard much negative of Grizzleys… you’ll surely get a list of grizzly’s supporters commenting here, as LJ seems to have many of those.

as for “square and perfect out of the box” I wouldn’t worry about that too much, tuning a saw is no big deal, and is a good experience to go through – what more – it’s easier to do when the saw is new and clean, as opposed to when it’s already positioned in a corner, and is all dusty…

look for features that are important to you, and that will point you to the right saw for you, everything else can be worked through/around.

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Christopher

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#2 posted 08-16-2009 11:17 PM

I am a grizzly saw owner and I am very satisfied. Like Purplev said $1k will get you into a great grizzly that can honestly offer more than either the jet or delta you have listed. If you don’t want to go that route I too would go with the jet. I have owned my share of contractor saws and I hope to never go back. They are too loud, too light, too fragile and you can’t tune them like you will need to. Also, keep in mind that all saws, including grizzlys and delta, need to be tuned out of the box. Once you know how to do it though, it’s easy.

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#3 posted 08-16-2009 11:22 PM

Lots of good reviews here on LJs about Grilzzly table saws

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Kevin

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#4 posted 08-17-2009 12:08 AM

Thanks for the info guys. Here is the TS I was looking at grizzly’s site. I’d like to stay around the 1k mark if possible for now so I guess i’m going to rule out the Delta and try to compare either the Jet or the Grizzly. The only thing I saw negative about the grizzly’s was the shipping being sub-par on their part.

Grizzly:
http://www.grizzly.com/products/2-HP-Hybrid-Cabinet-Saw/G0478

The tuning out of the box isn’t that much of a conern really. My main concern is just durability, table top being straight and not warping andlongevity and able to rip through the wood without any hassle. There are probably a few more to mention, but I may just be picky, lol. I know the more expensive I go probably the better the TS’s will be, but i’m just looking for a really good TS in the $800-$1000 range if possible.

If they are other TS’s that you guys can suggest that are along the 1000 range then feel free to post, if not then I’m debating on the Jet or the Grizzly :)

Thanks!

Kevin

-- Williamsburg, KY

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knotscott

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#5 posted 08-17-2009 01:54 AM

Grizzly sells a lot of tools…especially table saws. The vast majority of their shipments reach the destination in good shape. I wouldn’t let a vocal fraction of a percent prevent you from buying the best saw for you. Keep in mind that Grizzly doesn’t handle the shipping….trucking companies do. I doubt the truckers go out of their way to rough up the Grizzly machines, while babying the Deltas…LOL! When you buy from a dealer, that dealer filters any shipping damage and handles dealing with the truckers and the manufacturer. They also gets a deserved premium for their role. There are pros and cons to buying direct and pros and cons buying from a dealer…which circumstance has the most appeal to you?

I agree that $1000 for a contractor saw is way too much for a 60 year old design with the motor hanging off the back. Unless you can get a contractor saw for much less, a hybrid offers several advantages, and virtually no disadvantage unless you need to remove the motor frequently. That Jet is a very nice hybrid saw.

If you have 220v, a cabinet saw is even further up the ladder…the Grizzly G1023SL is $1075 shipped, and is simply a more robust saw than any of contractor saws or hybrids available. If you don’t have 220v, there are several excellent hybrids that will serve you well. The end performance all boils down to blade selection and alignment.

Guts of a Grizzly cabinet saw (similar to many others):

Guts of a G0478 hybrid (similar to many others):

In the end, pick the saw that pleases you most, but do your research so you can make an informed decision.

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Kevin

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#6 posted 08-17-2009 02:22 AM

Thanks for reminding me about the trucking companies, that is very true. That is the main reason I joined this site is to get expert opinions that you guys have given. I do have 220v wired in my garage so that isn’t a problem. That 1023SL looks very nice at 1075 shipped.

From what I’ve read so far the 1023SL is a more robust saw like you guys have said than the Grizzly 478 Hybrid. If that’s the case and it’s a better bang for the buck than the JET then I’ll be getting it.

I’ve owned delta equipment and bought a couple of jointers from Grizzly, but have never had any experience with Jet though. I know cabinet saws are better usually than any hybrid and definately contracter saws. Is the JET a cabinet saw. All in all, I really like the 2 Grizzly’s you guys have pointed out and the JET, but JET seems to be really expensive for the most part.

LOL, i’ve looked and looked for the past few weeks over different saws ranging from 600 – 1000 trying to get my best bang for my buck. I think that I am finally getting it narrowed down :) I want to make a sound purchase that’s for sure :)

Thanks,

Kevin

PS: Right now I have a 50 dollar benchtop table saw that I have made modifications to. Basically it’s a cabinet with extension wings on both sides. I’ve also built my own T-square fence that I downloaded off the internet that is a Beismeyer clone pretty much. I have build small entertainment centers and right now in the process of building an oak desk for my computer. You would not imagine how frustrating it was before I built my own fence trying to get accurate cuts. So i’m really looking forward to a good quality TS now :D :D :D

-- Williamsburg, KY

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marcb

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#7 posted 08-17-2009 02:43 AM

If you want something you can pick up locally, check out Home Depot’s Ridgid and Sears Craftsman hybrids.

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knotscott

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#8 posted 08-17-2009 02:55 AM

Kevin – The Jet Proshop (708482K) has very similar guts as the Griz 0478….table mounted trunnions, one-piece cast arbor carriage, 1-3/4hp belt drive induction motor.

You can see an exploded pictorial in the online owner’s manual that shows it’s construction, but it’s very similar to the construction of the G0478.

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Sailor

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#9 posted 08-17-2009 04:17 AM

khays,

About a month ago, I was going through the exact same type of decision as you are. I was also considering the Delta and the Jet just as you are. In the end, I ended up with the Grizzly 1023SL and I do not regret it for one second! It is a fantastic saw!

I was originally in the markey for a $800-$1000 table saw just like you. I came to this forum asking for help in my decision just like you. What really made me consider the G1023SL for $1075 shipped is the fact that I was going to spend pretty much that amount for a hybrid saw that was 1 1/2hp. When I could spend the same for a 5hp cabinet saw, which is a considerable difference between the saws.

I too was worried about Grizzly’s reputation about shipping. Mine arrived in perfect condition and everything was there, no problems. When they handle the shipping they do send it by freight, mine was sent by UPS freight.

If you do not have 220v don’t worry, I didn’t either. But in 20 minutes I had 220v and a plug ran in my shop and waiting for the saw.

I say spend the extra $75 over you budget and get the big boy saw, you will not regret it! I use mine everyday here lately and its a dream to work with! BUY IT!

I also have the Shop Fox Classic fence with the saw and it’s great too…...

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#10 posted 08-17-2009 04:39 AM

I have the G0478 and only have one thing to complain about. Shipping wasn’t a problem, it arrived in perfect condition and all I had to adjust out of the box was the fence and 0/45 bevel stops. The issue with this saw is the guard/splitter combination. It’s a pain to adjust when you need to remove/replace the guard, and a bigger pain to get the splitter aligned when using a thin kerf blade. If you plan on using .125” kerf blades this isn’t really an issue, or if you want to put on a 40 tooth all purpose blade forever, again, not an issue. But if you’re like me and need to change between ripping, crosscutting and dado blades frequently, then it becomes a bit of a hassle. It’s not impossible, though it is a pain…but again, it’s the only issue I have with this saw.

I don’t regret buying this saw over the other hybrids. The price is right, the parts are heavy duty. I haven’t had any problems at all once things are setup correctly. I’ve only had this saw for two months, and I’d still recommend it to others given my frustrations with the guard/splitter.

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Kevin

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#11 posted 08-17-2009 05:42 PM

After reading all the replies I do think that I will go ahead and get the 1023SL saw. For just an extra $75 it seems that this is a no brainer as long as there are no rises in the price between now and a few weeks.

Thanks to all for the advice, suggestions and opinions.

Kevin

-- Williamsburg, KY

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knotscott

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#12 posted 08-17-2009 08:57 PM

Hard to argue that choice Kevin. $75 more for an industrial style 3hp cabinet saw vs a 1-1/2hp contractor is $75 very well spent IMO. I’ll doubt you’ll ever regret that decision.

FWW, Bob Ross from Walnutacre Woodworking makes an aftermarket riving knife device that fits the G1023SL…..he calls it the “BORK”, short for Bolt On Ripping Knife. It rises, falls, and tilts with the blade just like a true riving knife. The biggest difference is that it’s retrofitted on a traditional swing arm, so it travels in slight arc just as the blade of that saw will. The newer stock riving knife designs tend to go straight up and down. The BORK works great on my Shop Fox 1677, and Bob’s great to deal with. If interested, ask Bob about any available forum discounts.

One more suggestion….last year Microsoft was offering a Cashback deal for using their “Live.com” search engine. Ebay was a major retail participant in that deal. They’ve renamed the search engine “Bing.com”, and the Cashback is currently at 12%. If you’re familiar with the deal, you might try contacting Grizzly’s Ebay Team and asking them to list a G1023SL on Ebay for you, so you can take advantage of the 12% Cashback…..that’s basically the equivalent of the “BORK” for free, or a really nice saw blade for free. Google “Cashback” or “Bing.com” and read up on it.

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Kevin

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#13 posted 08-17-2009 10:48 PM

Thank you for the information above knotscott. I will definately have to look into that. Yeah, i’m excited about getting that TS :D

-- Williamsburg, KY

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marcb

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#14 posted 08-18-2009 12:26 AM

If the saw you get doesn’t have a riving knive, buy the bork.

Thats the one thing I need to figure out on my old iron table saw. Much nicer than a splitter.

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#15 posted 08-18-2009 01:54 AM

The Grizzly 1023SL for $1075 shipped, no tax (in most states), is the best deal out there. The delta contractor saw and the Jet hybrid just can’t touch it. 3hp verses 1.5hp is a no brainer. 220V verses 110V is another no brainer. you will notice the big difference. I own a 1023 right tilt with the shop fox clone of the Beis. No problems, no regrets. JMHO and $0.02 thrown in.

-- Better woodworking through old hand tools.

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