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Forum topic by mark4345 posted 05-09-2015 10:55 PM 829 views 0 times favorited 12 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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mark4345

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05-09-2015 10:55 PM

Anyone thought about using or use K&N filter oil for automotive air filters on their pleated filters for the dust collector?

For vehicles it is meant to help capture fine particles and keep them out of the engine, might this help in catching the finest dust that makes it to the filter and keep it out of your air returning to the room?

I am using a cyclone collector so nothing but the finest dust makes it to the filter as it is, i just want to keep it in there.


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bigblockyeti

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#1 posted 05-10-2015 02:05 AM

I thought about it, but the oiled cotton gauze element kind of stinks and would be a huge mess to clean saw dust out of. A dry paper (or synthetic) element with a large surface area would more cost effective and tremendously easier to clean.

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johnstoneb

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#2 posted 05-10-2015 02:06 AM

You’ll ruin the filter paper by putting oil on it those filters are meant to be dry. The K&N filters are useless for filtering fine dust. Hold one up to the light you can see holes every where in them. The oil you put on them supposedly catches the dust as the air is pulled past’ They filter after a fashion when all you do is drive on asphalt. Spend all day on dirt roads and it not long before you have a dusted engine.

-- Bruce, Boise, ID

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mark4345

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#3 posted 05-10-2015 02:15 AM

Good point on the cleaning, i hadn’t though to that. I dont want to ruin the filter either.
Ill add this idea to the scrap pile

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firefighterontheside

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#4 posted 05-10-2015 02:28 AM

I used a K&N in my truck for a while, until I held it up to the light and saw all the holes. I decided it was more cost effective to keep buying new paper filters than to ruin my Diesel engine.

-- Bill M. "People change, walnut doesn't" by Gene.

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timbertailor

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#5 posted 05-10-2015 03:09 AM

I do not recommend them even for cars. Too easy to over oil the filter and have it ruin your Mass Airflow Sensor. And no, MAS can not be cleaned effectively and they are not cheap to replace.

-- Brad, Texas, https://www.youtube.com/user/tonkatoytruck/feed

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OSU55

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#6 posted 05-10-2015 05:19 AM

Dont recommend the k& n oil for a DC filter, but I have used the k&n filters inseveral trucks and motorcyles for over 100k mi in each vehicle with great results – use them in evrything I own. Those are the results that count – experience vs opinion

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Fred Hargis

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#7 posted 05-10-2015 11:49 AM

Quite a few years ago, Wood magazine published a plan for a cyclone using a smaller blower, and their filter of choice was a truck air filter (dry type). There were quite a few of these built and from what i read most folks got fairly good service out of them. I built the cyclone but used AFF bags on my much larger blower. Anyway, some of the big truck air filter are just that: big, and may work. They still wouldn’t be my choice, but that’s me. I also wouldn’t use the K&N type filters for DC but I’ve used them in several vehicles including my current truck and they work very well for that.

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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timbertailor

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#8 posted 05-10-2015 02:01 PM



Dont recommend the k& n oil for a DC filter, but I have used the k&n filters inseveral trucks and motorcyles for over 100k mi in each vehicle with great results – use them in evrything I own. Those are the results that count – experience vs opinion

- OSU55

Obviously you did not click on my link. I have more than enough experience. People bring their cars to me from all over the country.

-- Brad, Texas, https://www.youtube.com/user/tonkatoytruck/feed

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johnstoneb

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#9 posted 05-10-2015 02:20 PM

As a journeyman diesel mechanic we used to refer to K&N as a mechanics best friend. Got a lot of dusted engines out of them.

-- Bruce, Boise, ID

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OSU55

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#10 posted 05-10-2015 09:03 PM



Obviously you did not click on my link. I have more than enough experience. People bring their cars to me from all over the country.
- timbertailor

Looks like you build/rebuild engines. Don’t believe that’s the same as living with with the same engines for hundreds of thousands of miles. Never had an issue of getting a MAS clean after over oiling a filter, either, but I’m sure you have dealt with many more of those. Distinctively different results from utilizing the same product….............

We do agree K&N’s are not for DC’s though!

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Shadowrider

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#11 posted 05-10-2015 11:24 PM

There is no free lunch regardless of what K&N says. The reason they pass more air is directly attributable to their lack of filtration. Is it good enough for a weekend boulevard burner? Maybe, but I wouldn’t have one in anything I own because I do drive on dirt roads and back roads. And the mess involved with cleaning out one used in dust collection is way more than I’m willing to deal with.

http://www.gmtruckcentral.com/articles/air-filter-study.html

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distrbd

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#12 posted 05-10-2015 11:44 PM


I do not recommend them even for cars. Too easy to over oil the filter and have it ruin your Mass Airflow Sensor. And no, MAS can not be cleaned effectively and they are not cheap to replace.

- timbertailor


A lot of kids in my neighbourhood buy those K&N filters for their cold air intake they just installed on their Civics ,I tried it on my car(Civic) instead of the regular filter to see if I get a boost in horsepower but a trusted mechanic told me it was a waste of money if used for that reason.

-- Ken from Ontario, Canada

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