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08-15-2009 05:33 AM

Hello everyone. I just joined a day ago. Put a couple projects up and my shop too. After browsing around I am throughly humbled by the talent out there. So many people producing such fine work. Not only that but the kind comments on my projects, which in comparison, well there is little to compare. I am not sure I would have placed them online if I would have looked at all the others first. But then being humbled is good and it makes me want to do even better. Bless all of you.


-- Phil 4:13------Our family motto

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#1 posted 08-15-2009 05:47 AM

some say the mountain of wood will humble you

they were right

-- "Good artists borrow, great artists steal”…..Picasso

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#2 posted 08-15-2009 09:21 AM

Never be afraid to post your projects. This site is all about woodworkers helping each other. If you have a question or comment, feel free to post. Ther are people here that have little to no experiance and others with a lifetime in the craft. We are all on this site to learn, grow and to pass on our knowledge to others with the same interests.

Welcome to LJ’s and hope to see many more projects, blogs, and comments from you.


-- Scrap Wood's the best...the projects are smaller, and so is the mess!

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#3 posted 08-15-2009 12:37 PM

Welcome to LumberJocks. This place will not only show you some of the best work in the world, but build your skills and knowledge through the extensive blogs and encouraging comments. If you’re involved in woodworking, this is the place to be.

-- Working at Woodworking

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#4 posted 08-15-2009 12:44 PM

glad you made it !

it’s all about sharing ,
in every direction .

and there aren’t any exams ,
just lots of learning .

welcome .

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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#5 posted 08-15-2009 02:36 PM

Many of us are novices…then there are the incredibly talented woodworkers who help us with advice and encouragement! You will just love this site and learn so much…as I have too!

-- "Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good." Voltaire

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#6 posted 08-15-2009 05:29 PM

Welcome to Lumberjocks! This website is filled with friendly and talented folks from all over the globe. I believe you will find that the “sense of community” here is second to none and help, items and ideas are always just a few clicks away. This is a very useful and enjoyable place to spend some time.

-- Ohh mann...pancakes and boobies...I'll bet that's what Heaven is like! ♣ ♣ ♣ ♣

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#7 posted 08-15-2009 08:11 PM

Thanks everyone. One very cool thing is the range of people on this site. From all over the world. Another benefit is my wife is always wanting to show off my projects so she carries pics on her cell phone. Now she can just steer people to this site, and they can see much more than just my stuff too!

-- Phil 4:13------Our family motto

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#8 posted 08-15-2009 09:21 PM


To echo everyone else; there are folks of every skill level and walk of life present on this site. I love it, I’ve been here about two years and have been humbled as well. I have also learned a tremendous amount as well and have really enjoyed when folks help me solve a problem. By the way, what part of AK are you in? I have a few friends that live outside of Palmer and couple of others that live between Wasila and Willow.

-- "Everything that is great and inspiring is created by the individual who labors in freedom" -- Albert Einstein

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#9 posted 08-16-2009 02:38 PM


Never be afraid to share your work -

That said – it never gets any better … I fell out of my mother and landed in a pile of sawdust. I was running power equipment before most kids were off of safety scissors. Net result – I’ve published some things here that will likely blow people’s minds and gotten the compliments to back that up

- and then on the other hand I’ve scanned through this site and found myself pondering if I should really keep the “Master Craftsman” title … there are things like wooden clocks, hand made toys with working wooden dozer tracks, intricate inlays, finely detailed scroll work … I’d need to put in some series practice generating some very expensive firewood before I’d get up to par with level of work shown here. Just use it to give you ideas and keep your challenge level up.

Also when you combine pro’s and amateurs into one venue – some interesting things happen.

1) The pro’s realize the level of quality and detail the amateurs produce is beyond what anyone in this for a profit can achieve – as long as there is a business aspect involved we have to make a delivery, and we have to keep ourselves and our OCD in check or we’ll loose our shirts. Some day when we retire we hope to be as good as the hobbiest is now.

2) The amateurs realize there’s an amazing array of tricks, toys, tools, chemicals, and methods to employ that will allow them to expand their skills, push beyond the published capabilities of their equipment, and ultimately work faster. Many also make a quick determination if they have it in them to turn their craft to a business or not.

The more you share and equally spend time to observe – the more you will learn.

-- Eric M. Saperstein, Master Craftsman

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#10 posted 08-16-2009 03:14 PM


I am glad your first experience here has been good. I am in the same boat as you are though I believe I am much newer to woodworking than you. So far I have found this site invaluable. And as are you, I am completely humbled by the amazing talent that I see here every day. However, being able to see the wide range of talent and craftsmanship here also reminds me that a big part of what woodworking is all about improvement. No matter how good one gets, he can always be better!! Tighter fitting joints, better alignment of grain, smoother finish, etc. This will definitely be a hobby that I can keep up for the rest of my life…assuming the money keeps coming! I hope you find the same.

-- James -

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#11 posted 08-17-2009 01:59 PM

This site is addicting. Be very careful.

Also, this is the best group of folks I know.

-- Father of two sons. Both Eagle Scouts.

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#12 posted 08-19-2009 12:22 AM

akdale, I am sometimes more impressed by the new guy with no experience, showing what he has done with minimal tools and little, if any, training than with the pro who has 30 years experience. Of course he should be at a higher level, and produce great results. By the way—Pro only means you get paid for it. The way you get better is to do it, and do it, and do it some more. You learn from your mistakes. You should see some of the crap I did early on, and I was raised in woodworking. I found skilled craftsmen (like you see here on LJ’s) that taught me how to do it right. I took some real criticism from some of them, but I learned. I’m still constantly challenged in my woodworking—-You never learn it all. I frequently see projects by hobbyists, that totally blow me away. But don’t compare yourself to others. Moniter your own progress. Are you getting better over time? Are you learning new skills? Are you happy with your projects, or do you need to work on certain skills?

Woodworking is a never ending journey. Jump in and enjoy the ride. We’re all glad to help.


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#13 posted 08-19-2009 12:27 AM

Hey Akdale
Welcome to LJs I think we are all humbled by the talent here on LJs . But we all share what we have made good,bad, or ugly were all one big family here.

-- wood crafting & woodworking classes

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#14 posted 08-19-2009 12:36 AM

Kent is correct – just keep doing it. If you mess something up – do it again. If you don’t know ask a question – “Mastery – is an evolution” ...

This is extract from an article from our blog site (Part I of it anyway – Part II pending shortly I hope …) that discusses in part some aspects of being a “Master” of a given trade. The feature artist is Jay Fisher – deemed “The Greatest Living Knifemaker” ... Part II will introduce Stacy J. Nabinger, an up and coming (new comer) in the world of knife makers.

“Interlude: Did you have seriously think about that statement “his skills will improve,” or did you at least read it twice? Jay is a master of his craft, yet there is no insult when I say his skills will improve over time. Mastery is not a permanent state of knowledge and skill frozen in time. Mastery merely means an artist has achieved a level of understanding at a particular point in time. To an true artist, mastery is a journey, not a destination. If any of us ever truly mastered our craft, feeling we just knew all there was to know about it what do you think would happen? I’ll tell you; we will lose interest and move on to something entirely different.

Mastery is an evolution, time will bring new designs, new materials, new tools, new challenges, new – well we just don’t know that’s yet to come. There are times a master makes a mistake, often at the point were we become arrogant, and are sent backwards (I think the proper term is bitch-slapped) into a humble pondery of exactly what possessed us to start this career in the first place let alone do something so stupid. Then we dust ourselves off, maybe get a few stitches, and return to our craft reminded that we will be spending the rest of our lives trying to truly master our art”

- Quote from … Well me … do I have to give me proper credit? Eh, unlikely I’ll sue myself I’m too cheap to pay both sides of the legal bill anyway.

-- Eric M. Saperstein, Master Craftsman

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#15 posted 08-19-2009 04:23 AM

I love men with no experience….........

mastery….if thats even a word, is a “journey”

perhaps thats why it takes so long to become a “journeyman”.........defined by a “Jury of Men”.....generally done by your peers, those who are “master jointers” ................”determined by those who practised the trade successfullydecade after decade, .............................exceptional trades people… you get bandwidth and you get to be the judge, by your peers and they are their own judges!

to become a “Master Joiner” no easy task

-- "Good artists borrow, great artists steal”…..Picasso

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