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Forum topic by unklegwar posted 08-12-2009 05:33 AM 1970 views 0 times favorited 36 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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unklegwar

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08-12-2009 05:33 AM

Looking for input and ideas regarding how to maneuver a 460 lb Grizzly G0690 machine (before assembly) into my basement shop.

I live close enough to the PA store that I can actually pick it up and save a big pile of $$ on shipping. So I would need to get it out of my truck, around the house, down a slight grade to a walkout basement. then, onto a mobile base.

I can get my hands on enough strong guys to lift it if need be (460lbs / 4 people should be manageable).

I thought of using 2×6s as carrying poles under the table top, but don’t think the top was meant to support the rest of the cab.

Similar method might work under the skid, but then the load would be top heavy and prone to falling over (VERY VERY BAD).

Making a cart with fat wheels (for the lawn) would work, but I still have to get it out of the truck onto ground level and onto the cart.

How did some of your manage this feat?

-- Eric ---- Wise Words T.B.D.


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#1 posted 08-12-2009 05:48 AM

I slide anything heavy on 1/4” sheets of melamine. The stuff is slick. I moved my 2500 lb table saw on it with no problems. I put a thicker sheet of anything under it if need be to keep it from cracking or breaking. A flat pry bar or crowbar can be used to lift the tool up a bit to slide the first piece under the edge.

-- Oldworld, Fair Oaks, Ca

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#2 posted 08-12-2009 05:55 AM

If you have 4 strong people I would suggest using 4×4s(like a litter) with a person on each end.

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unklegwar

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#3 posted 08-12-2009 06:02 AM

4×4s seems strong enough. Would you suggest putting them under the whole saw or under the table top?

As for the melamine, that’s a great idea.Really would spread out the weight! I also have some formica left over from my Gwarcade project. I could sticky that to some plywood with similar results I imagine. I’m thinking I can use that to slide the saw down some ramps from the truck to the ground too (4×4x8 ramps?). A small block and tackle behind it to ease it down (i dont’ want anyone getting flattened).

Awesome idea.

BTW, where to find 1/4” melamine? And do you think hardboard would work?

-- Eric ---- Wise Words T.B.D.

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#4 posted 08-12-2009 06:31 AM

You can take the saw more apart…like take out the motor and the trunion…most of the other parts are in pieces…the heaviest part is the cabinet…with the motor and trunion

Hardboard could crumble under that weight or tear out from the stress of sliding. I would stick to the melamine if you go that thin….there are also those furniture glides for the flat areas….you would probably like to anchor the melamine on the stairs…as it could slide out of control… You could also set up a tripod system with those same 4×4’s…I did that with an engine hoist to get my lathe together…and it weighed 700+ pounds…(it would probably be very similar to the block and tackle)...course the more the manpower the easier the move…accept of course in the constricted area of the stairs perhaps…

....Im glad my shop does not have a stairway….it would have been impossible to get a lathe in there….

I hope it works alright for you…good luck!

-- Woodworking.....My small slice of heaven!

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#5 posted 08-12-2009 06:49 AM

I sometimes use an engine lift to take things out of the truck. It is best not to try to slide something down a ramp that has a steep angle. The saw could tip over. However, you could slide it out of a truck if you could slide it onto a porch and then from the porch to the ground level. These things are top heavy and can get out of hand real quick. It is best to think things out clearly before moving a heavy item. Keep us posted. John

-- Oldworld, Fair Oaks, Ca

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unklegwar

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#6 posted 08-12-2009 04:22 PM

@reggiek: I don’t have any stairs to navigate. Just a grade in the yard since it’s a walkout basement. The biggest “step” I have to navigate is the 3 inches at the threshold.
I was thinking I’d have to “laminate” the hardboard to a sheet of plywood. I have no idea where to find 1/4” melamine tho. Can you provide a link? The only melamine I know I can find is 3/4” particleboard sheets at HD or Lowe’s. I don’t know that furniture glides will work in my yard.

I would be okay with a tripod or engine lift, but I’m not sure where to attach to the saw base. I’m not sure lifting by the table top is good idea and I don’t see any lift hooks or loops in the saw body. And neither one of those is going to be mobile (the engine lift wheels would not navigate the sod).

As for ramps out of my truck, my “truck” is a subaru baja, very low to the ground (but can carry 1000lbs in the bed), so the ramp would be 8’ long but only rise about 2.5’

I’m starting to think of building a sled with some 4”x6”x5’ lumber I have laying around. Cut a curve on the front and back (like a toboggan or sled) and then attach plywood and then some formica that I have laying around or the mysterious 1/4” melamine.

Thanks all for the advice and ideas so far. I don’t mean to shoot anyone down, all info is useful. I’m just explaining my situation more. Please keep em coming!

-- Eric ---- Wise Words T.B.D.

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#7 posted 08-12-2009 07:44 PM

Perhaps you could turn the whole thing upside down, protect the table with heavy paper or cardboard and this will help in the sliding process (whichever method you chose). This would take care of the biggest safety issue, i.e. the saws weight being on top.

-- joesub101

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#8 posted 08-12-2009 08:18 PM

Unkl…If you just have a grade…have the delivery company use a pallet jack and just roll it into place…that is how my cab was delivered….I assumed you had some stairs to navigate….a pallet jack will roll down most grades….if it is steep…use a block or an engine hoist to slow down the descent….but most deliveries now come on pallets…my saw did and so did my lathe….

-- Woodworking.....My small slice of heaven!

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#9 posted 08-12-2009 08:22 PM

Why not get a small trailer,unhook it in your driveway,then take your strong guys wheel it down the hill to your door. Try it you will like it. john50

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#10 posted 08-12-2009 08:28 PM

@reggiek:
I am not having this delivered, I am picking it up. I live near the PA warehouse. And even so, a pallete jack would not roll across the lawn, nor would an engine hoist.

@cessnapilotBarry: I looked up the cargo capacity specs in several places and got number from 891 to 1000+ lbs. The Baja has a beefed up suspenstion over the outback…also large tow capacity (2000 vs 1500). But I an considering getting a trailer anyway, so that may be an option.

SO: 891 lbs – 120 (gas) – 250 (me) = 521 – so I’d be overloaded by about 60lbs. I can always only fill to half a tank :-)

I wish I could pull up to the door. I can only get so far, then there is a deck and a cliff in the way.

-- Eric ---- Wise Words T.B.D.

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unklegwar

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#11 posted 08-12-2009 08:32 PM

@john50: That’s looking more and more likely, (But I’ll have to borrow the GF’s outback, she’s got the hitch, not me).

Now, the trick is, which friend gets on the downhill side of the trailer :-)

-- Eric ---- Wise Words T.B.D.

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unklegwar

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#12 posted 08-12-2009 08:33 PM

Of course the easy way out is to get the G0661, and save 200 lbs or so.

-- Eric ---- Wise Words T.B.D.

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#13 posted 08-14-2009 12:21 AM

I think you can still use a pallet jack….lay down some runners across the grass and wallah….a pallet jack is fairly cheap to rent for a day or less….and it can easily roped to let down the ramp slowly…....the one the guy that delivered my lathe had was equiped with oversized tires to allow it to run over door jams and stairs….it was a nice rig…

-- Woodworking.....My small slice of heaven!

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unklegwar

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#14 posted 08-14-2009 08:09 PM

I’m starting to like the idea of building a “sled” out of 4×6’s and plywood. And pulling that across my lawn with the lawn mower.

-- Eric ---- Wise Words T.B.D.

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#15 posted 08-14-2009 08:52 PM

How much hp is your mower? Thats a pretty heavy piece…and the mower might have a hard time getting it moving? I think that wheels or rolling stock under the sled…(they show these contrivances on the History Channel as used by many ancient cultures to move some serious weight) would help the weight issue…and I really like my Grizzly G0691…which I believe is the same as you are getting except mine has the longer rails.

This saw cuts like a champ….and the accuracy compared to my old contractor saw is like night and day….I’m not spending a whole lot of time as I used to squaring up my cuts with chisels and planes….I haven’t tried their Hybrid the G0661….but a quick search for reviews would get that done….I do know that the cab saws have serious trunnions….and I get barely a whisper when I am cutting some very deep dados in hard hard wood…not to mention the reduction of my electric bill for switching to the 220v…it really does improve.

Anyway…keep us posted….I figure we have an investment of time here…lol….and want to see what return our investment has garnered.

-- Woodworking.....My small slice of heaven!

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