LumberJocks

Used Craftsman cabinet saws

  • Advertise with us

« back to Power Tools, Hardware and Accessories forum

Forum topic by Perkolator posted 05-04-2015 02:53 AM 773 views 0 times favorited 5 replies Add to Favorites Watch
View Perkolator's profile

Perkolator

4 posts in 583 days


05-04-2015 02:53 AM

I just joined because LJ seems like an awesome place to learn more about woodworking – right now I’m looking for advice on used table saw purchase I just made and possible immediate upgrade.

10yrs ago I got a new Delta Shopmaster table top table saw for Christmas and I quickly found its limitations, so I bought a bigger used contractor saw in my price range – a Delta 34-444 contractor saw for $250. I’ve made it by with the saw for what little I needed to do, but lately I’ve been using it more frequently and started thinking about upgrades. The bigger saw didn’t have left tilt and also struggled to rip thicker hardwood, even wood as simple as 3/4” oak. Forget about adjusting the fence accurately, oh how I loathe it. Actually, the shopmaster rips the oak just fine (because no belt?) and I kept it because it’s compact and I can take it places just in case. Also I use it as a table surface sometimes, eek.

Looked on local CL for a few weeks and not too many upgrade saws popping up for sale, every cabinet saw priced near $1k or higher, or had 3-phase motors which I can’t power. Last week I saw a Craftsman cabinet saw with a Biesemeyer fence for $500 that was listed a few hours earlier – I contacted them immediately and after a week of silence they finally responded and I bought it immediately because it is already a better saw at better price than buying my delta a new fence. It is a Craftsman 22124 and in excellent condition as far as I can tell – holy cow it’s heavy and whispers compared to my delta.

So my dilemma – while waiting for the guy to respond on the saw I bought, I found another cabinet saw on CL with really bad pics and a vague description other than it’s just a bare saw and has no table wings/extensions or fence or anything (cabinet base, top and motor only) After talking with the seller who has basically no info on the saw other than it works, we determined its a Craftsman 22116. From my research, this is the current model and could be an upgrade because it should have a riving knife feature. I can get this bare saw for under $100. I think what happened is someone took it apart to move it perhaps and everything got separated from the tool (it’s at a thrift store).

My thought was to buy the 22116 and swap over everything from the 22124. What do you think? Good or bad decision? Also I was going to ask $250 for my Delta – fair price? Seemed on par with what I see locally. You guys know much more than me about tools, so wisdom is appreciated.


5 replies so far

View crank49's profile

crank49

3981 posts in 2435 days


#1 posted 05-04-2015 06:24 AM

If the stuff fits, why not?
A riving knife is worth more than the $100 from my point of view.

-- Michael: Hillary has a long list of accomplishments, though most DAs would refer to them as felonies.

View knotscott's profile

knotscott

7212 posts in 2839 days


#2 posted 05-04-2015 09:19 AM

Several parts from the 22116 are worth more than $100. Get it now if it’s not complete stripped or broken, and decide what to do with it later. The 22116 is granite so be sure it’s not cracked. The 22124 has a better fence.

$250 for the Delta is decent asking price if it’s nice shape. You can always drop lower if you don’t get replies.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

View Perkolator's profile

Perkolator

4 posts in 583 days


#3 posted 05-04-2015 08:32 PM

Thanks for the replies. Yes, the riving knife was the main reason for even considering the 22116. I’ve seen it on CL for the past few weeks, so nobody’s really taken interest it seems – also I understand it’s buried under a bunch of stuff at the thrift store, which is why they can’t get me better pics…and they’re all retirees running the place.

I’m planning to take off work early one day this week to go see it during their 10-3pm business hours. What still worries me is that it’s pretty much stripped, the only stuff I saw in the pics was the cabinet base, the top, and the power switch (missing the paddle). They did confirm it still has motor and runs when plugged in. I’d assume it’s missing: both wings, throat plate, fence assembly, blade guard (possibly blade and riving knife too), tilt angle crank, and I dunno what else. For the $100 I figure the guts are worth WAY more than that.

I figure the $250-300 would be a good place to start on the Delta as long as I include the HTC “HRC-10” mobile base. It’s in great condition and the only issue I really had was the fence. I think my issues with cutting the oak was more to do with full kerf blade with too many teeth (40t). Ripped better on my smaller direct drive Shopmaster with a cheap 25t ripping blade.

View knotscott's profile

knotscott

7212 posts in 2839 days


#4 posted 05-04-2015 09:37 PM


... I think my issues with cutting the oak was more to do with full kerf blade with too many teeth (40t). Ripped better on my smaller direct drive Shopmaster with a cheap 25t ripping blade.

- Perkolator

Blade selection is a huge factor in the end performance of any saw. 1/8” full kerf blades are 33% wider than 3/32” thin kerfs, so are inherently pose higher resistance to the saw. Sharpness matters, quality matters, tooth count, tooth geometry, design, balance, and tensioning all matter. It’s definitely worth a few extras bucks to buy the right blade.

If the wings are missing from the 22116, getting replacement could prove problematic since Steel City just closed their doors. The fence would be worth more than $100, as would be the motor. The blade guard could be worth ~ $50. I wonder if it’s possible to put the top from the 22124 onto the 22116 cabinet and undercarriage…. doubtful, but ya never know until you into it. Some spacers would put those trunnion brackets on the same planed relative to the cabinet lip as the 22124….


-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

View Perkolator's profile

Perkolator

4 posts in 583 days


#5 posted 05-08-2015 07:50 PM

Thanks again. Yeah I think I might skip on the 22116, esp if parts will be hard to come by. Space is a major issue right now until I sell the Delta. Wife already rolling her eyes at the last purchase, lol. We’ll see, maybe I’ll make it over to the thrift shop sometime this month and it’ll still be there.

Have your say...

You must be signed in to reply.

DISCLAIMER: Any posts on LJ are posted by individuals acting in their own right and do not necessarily reflect the views of LJ. LJ will not be held liable for the actions of any user.

Latest Projects | Latest Blog Entries | Latest Forum Topics

HomeRefurbers.com