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Forum topic by Medickep posted 05-01-2015 03:49 PM 1926 views 0 times favorited 14 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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05-01-2015 03:49 PM

Topic tags/keywords: jointer old school resource

I just inherited this ancient jointer from my father, who guessed it was around 75 years old. I’ve been wanting to get a jointer aw well as a planer so I can entertain the idea of buying non-dimensional lumber.

The brand of the jointer is C&E manufactured by Pryor special machine shop out of Habra California. I never heard of this bran, but the thing weighs a ton and appears to have more cast iron than my Rigid TS3650!

If I was to use it, it would really need to be clean up, a few missing nuts, bolts and washers and when I turned it on it vibrated a ton, so I figured I would put on a power twist V-link as it did wonders for my bandsaw. Also some good locking casters would help move it around too!!

What do you think??

-- Keith


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#1 posted 05-01-2015 04:14 PM

Very little information about that manufacturer exists… at the VM site, there has only been three sightings reported :)

Here is a thread at owwm, in which this picture was posted:

A little bit of cleanup, some new bearings, knives, belt and paint and you should have a nice jointer!

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid

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#2 posted 05-01-2015 04:22 PM

Sure is a nice jointer, congrats.

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#3 posted 05-01-2015 04:25 PM

MrUnix-

Where exactly would you expect the bearings to be bad? For the blade? New blade or sharpen this one? Appears to only have one.

-- Keith

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#4 posted 05-01-2015 04:37 PM

It (hopefully) has bearings on the cutter head and in the motor. Given it’s age and condition, you really should replace them if possible. If it has bushings (sleeve) or poured, then they might still be ok, but you really need to disassemble to check. Knives can probably be resharpened as long as they have not been worn down too far.

I’d post your pictures and a query over at the owwm site... there is probably a few people over there who have owned or worked on that or a similar machine from Pryor that could give you better guidance.

Cheers,
Brad

PS: Only one knife?

-- Brad in FL - To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid

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#5 posted 05-01-2015 05:17 PM

Thanks for the help, closer inspection reveals three blades! Oops!

-- Keith

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#6 posted 05-02-2015 01:44 PM

-- Keith

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#7 posted 05-02-2015 02:01 PM

thats a little unusual that the bearing housing is w welded block of steel on top of the side frame of the machine, must be a fabricated steel machine in some places not cast iron, not a bad thing

-- Deano

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#8 posted 05-03-2015 12:00 AM

Deano-

I tried to get the roller that holds the blades out but couldn’t. I wanted to check the bearings but after loosening every nut and bolt I could find it wouldn’t budge. Not sure if it’s seized up or not designed to come off. If it was the latter, the set screws being present wouldn’t make sense!

I tried a few taps with the old rubber mallet but was to scared to commit!

-- Keith

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#9 posted 05-03-2015 04:10 AM

Medickep,Your jointer looks a lot like a Davis and wells,I am guessing you are somewhere on the west coast.Dan still occupys the Davis and Wells building in Lynwood.He might be a good source if you or the machine needs help.
What I like the most about you jointer is the cutter head looks like a jumbo sized soup can, the bigger the better.Aj

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#11 posted 05-03-2015 03:30 PM

Pretty slick, thanks!

-- Keith

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#12 posted 05-07-2015 01:54 PM

MrUnixx-

Thanks for the tip regarding the owwm site. They seem like a good group of guys and very helpful. If I can pass this pneumonia I picked up, I’m sure I’ll have that jointer running tip top in no time.

-- Keith

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#13 posted 05-19-2015 03:50 AM

Well I’m getting this jointer project wrapped up. It’s been a little slow going as I’ve had a relapse in my pneumonia! (take it easy with the doctor tells you to!)

I was wondering if anyone new of a good aftermarket spring for a jointer guard. It appears someone use one off of an old screen door, but it is stretched out and has lost all of it’s springyness. One end appears to attach to the guard while the other end connected to a small hole on the outside table.

Didn’t know if by now they make an all inclusive spring/bolt to hold the guard in place!!

-- Keith

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#14 posted 05-22-2015 11:20 PM

I’m now at the point where I’m performing the fine tune adjustments for this old jointer I restored. I was wondering if anyone had any tips for setting this thing up. I’m waiting to get my blades back and I’m assuming they need to be in place to adjust it correctly.

I’m starting to feel like I’m working on a RAS and wondering how crazy I need to get. I found an adjustment for the infeed table for coplanar I believe but not one for the outside table, which I thought was the more important side. I’ve included a photo that shoes the bar with the two adjustable nuts on it.

Thanks for any help!

-- Keith

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