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littlecope

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08-04-2009 12:16 AM

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I’ve been asking friends and family how one goes about transferring video tapes to DVD with no luck, figured I’d throw it out here…
There is a woodworking connection here; when I got my first VCR, a Betamax, in the early 80’s, I recorded almost two full seasons of “The Woodwright’s Shop” with Roy Underhill. When the Betamax format went the way of the 8-track, I had the foresight to transfer onto VHS, but now, by all accounts, the VHS format is going to disappear too. Is it a simple matter of buying a DVD recorder? Are they compatible? I used to be abreast of all the “Cutting Edge” technology changes but I’ve been slacking for quite a few years…and that might as well be centuries, things change so fast!!
I’d hate to lose these! They’re so old I bet Roy himself would have a hard time re-viewing them…They include the two-part construction of his spring pole Lathe, making wooden screws, his version of an Adirondack Chair, and much more, about 15-16 hours worth! Any help…?
(Oh, by the way, if this involves piracy, sorry…and forget I asked. But if I’m not looking to make any money on them, and copying something that I’ve already had for many years, for my own enjoyment, that was freely broadcast on television, I can’t really see where it would make a difference…)

-- Mike in Concord, NH---Unpleasant tasks are simply worthy challenges to improve skills.


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#1 posted 08-04-2009 12:30 AM

A copy for your own enjoyment is not a breach and yes you can copy Just hook up a dvd recorder to the vcr bia the jacks on the back and play the video and record on the dvd ,, all very simple .. it is explained in the operators manual for the dvd recorder.

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#2 posted 08-04-2009 12:40 AM

You might even get both in one machine. We have one that have both DVD and VHS, but I’ve never thought of trying to transfer on it.

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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littlecope

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#3 posted 08-04-2009 12:53 AM

Phew! I was hoping it would be that simple! Now I have to get hold of a recorder…
Thanks, Degoose!
TS: They have those too?! I’m lost with this stuff. This laptop was the first upgrade for me since cassettes!

-- Mike in Concord, NH---Unpleasant tasks are simply worthy challenges to improve skills.

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lew

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#4 posted 08-04-2009 01:54 AM

Check this site:

http://hometheater.about.com/od/dvdhardwareandsoftware/tp/dvdvcrrecorders.htm

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#5 posted 08-04-2009 02:04 AM

Wow…another sucker like me. I paid $750 for that Betamax…. a few short years later it was the worlds most expensive paperweight.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#6 posted 08-04-2009 02:13 AM

It is not quite as simple as degoose says.
You need to convert analog signals from the tape to digital data that can be burned to the CD or DVD. I used Plextor’s ConvertX pvr converter box. In addition to converting analog tape to digital it will also allow you to convert TV signals to display on you computer and even record them. Check it out and see if it fits your needs. There are other converters available (some even cheaper) but some don’t work very well.

To do the best job burning the converted data to a DVD I would also suggest getting Roxio’s program called Toast for both Mac and PCs. It is the best program on the market for burning CDs and DVDs, including making copies of other optical disks and also contains a program that converts analog sound (records and tapes) to digital that you can burn to a optical disk (DVD).
If you want the DVDs to last a long time be sure to buy high quality disks. Here is a bit of information I give to friends wanting to make archival DVDs.

”After someone asked me about the storage or “shelf life” of CDs and DVDs I did a little research and came up with the following information.
For those of you who are recording things like genealogy records, family history, and photographs this may be important. I know I will be doing some re-recording of things I have to new disks after reading this.
There appears to be only two makers of optical media (CD and DVDs) that can reasonably claim archival quality….50 to 100 years. For technical reasons I won’t go into here the DVD+R is the best. Even those MUST be stored properly; a cool, dry, dark place….especially out of sunlight, and kept in an acid free container….not card board or cheap paper.
One maker is, Taiyo Yuden, and the other is MAM-A gold. The Taiyo Yuden can be purchased for about $0.40 and the MAM-A gold are around $2.00. So that choice might be easy to make because they are given similar ratings by the several articles I reviewed.
They can be purchases online from at the following web sites:
<http: />
<http: /> Note: The Taiyo Yoden are apparently sometimes being counterfeited so you might want to read the info on the Supermediastore web site about verifying the origin of the disks.
Here is a web site for one of the articles I read if you want more info. Some of it is a bit technical.
<http: />”
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-- Les B, Oregon

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#7 posted 08-04-2009 04:13 AM

Charlie: Spent $849 for the latest front-loader by Sony, it weighed about 50 lbs! And the front loading feature was the only thing that went, the thing played super. They didn’t seem to have worked out the bugs yet…
Les: Believe it or not, I’ve looked into some of those issues, especially in regards to storing family pictures, and that’s good advice and I Thank You!

-- Mike in Concord, NH---Unpleasant tasks are simply worthy challenges to improve skills.

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#8 posted 08-04-2009 04:20 AM

Try Here:
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=11319408

Got Walmart close?
I have a video production company and have been doing this type of conversion for years. I use the industrial version of this type of recorder to do the transfers that you are looking for.

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#9 posted 08-04-2009 04:25 AM

vidkid26, does inline recording mean play the VHS and record the DVD?

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#10 posted 08-04-2009 04:29 AM

Yes. It has a VHS recorder and a DVD recorder in the box. Put the VHS in, a Blank DVD-r in and hit record. you can also go the other way if you want DVD to VHS. Ithink you said in your second reply that you have a unit like this. It is most likely a play only unit

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#11 posted 08-04-2009 04:31 AM

Thanks, but Budget<New Recorder, at least for now…;-)

-- Mike in Concord, NH---Unpleasant tasks are simply worthy challenges to improve skills.

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#12 posted 08-04-2009 09:33 AM

LesB makes a valid point, but I would like to expand a little on his post. You are going through
a lot of effort to keep these shows for as long as possible. I would highly recommend storing them in a digital format on your computer. When you do this, you can be reasonably sure that they
will be viewable for a long time to come. With any modern or almost modern computer, the ability
to store and play videos files is about as easy as it gets. There is no need to transfer media formats
everytime the industry changes. Not to mention hard drives being as cheap as they are. If you
care to watch them out in your shop to follow along step by step, just drag your laptop with you.
NOTE: Taiyo Yudens are considered to be the best by some of the most knowledgeable out there,
And I certainly wouldn’t argue that. BUT, even I have had authentic TY discs that my standard dvd
Player wouldn’t play.

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#13 posted 08-04-2009 04:16 PM

Hi,

I am new here, though I have lurked at the forum before, reading about some of the interesting projects. I am from Indiana. I saw your post on Roy Underhill and you had my interest. I have transferred a lot to DVD and the process is not hard, though it is slow. The reason you pique my interest though is this. I have 14 complete seasons of Roy’s show either on tape or transferred now to DVD (over 200 of the shows). And lots of episodes recorded before that. (That is not to count all of the woodworking shows that I have recorded other than his!) But I always try to find his enthusiasts that have some recorded to see if we can arrange a horse trade. Would that be possible? Now, please understand, I am like you, concerned about legal issues. But I am not suggesting any money trade hands – just a horse trade that I am sure Roy has indulged in a lot of times. These are all OUT-OF-PRINT and are not available from any source. Not even Roy. I know because I have asked. Anyway, I would appreciate a reply, if you would be so kind. Thanks!!

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#14 posted 08-04-2009 05:23 PM

I’ve gone through two DVD recorders (so far)... very discouraging.
1st was a Liteon… working for a little while then started flacking out til dead.
2nd was a Samsung VR357… started out good… then same ole crap…
Right now, I’m somewhat p i s s e d with the whole idea…
Each one of them had different features… liked the Samsung better… The type of DVD blanks is critical… MUST be the just THE RIGHT TYPE… a trial & error frustrating experience!

I don’t know if there is a GOOD DVD recorder out there that can really be depended on & is reliable & of good quality. If there IS one, I’d sure like to know about it!

Then, you put them in your computer to play them OR a separate DVD player… some may or may not work… There may be TWO sets of Titles & Chapters (why, I don’t know) which tends to make things a little more confusing… but still works!

Maybe vidkid26 can shed some MORE light on the subject? Sure would be nice!

Thank you…

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

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#15 posted 08-04-2009 08:43 PM

I’ve recorded a dvd by using my combo machine. Put a vcr tape in and a dvd and hit eh buttons and it records. My daughters wedding video was the first to be copied.

I’ve also taken some of my old vcr movies and copied them to dvd’s. Most of Disney ones fail because of copy protection on the vcr tape. But if these are your original copies that you made from over the air tv you should have no problem with the copies. It’s not fast. It’s like watching the program.

If you have 100 hrs of tapes then you have 100 hrs of duping time.

-- I've been blessed with a father who liked to tinker in wood, and a wife who lets me tinker in wood. Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

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