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Forum topic by Gene Howe posted 07-31-2009 03:36 AM 1258 views 0 times favorited 19 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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07-31-2009 03:36 AM

Tree's Rights

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton


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#1 posted 07-31-2009 03:45 AM

Would that mean that I can now sue a tree if it falls on my house or jumps out in front of my car.

-- I've been blessed with a father who liked to tinker in wood, and a wife who lets me tinker in wood. Southern Delaware soon moving to Virginia karsonwm@gmail.com †

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#2 posted 07-31-2009 03:56 AM

or maybe your lumber stacks might sue you ,
for causing them emotoinal trauma ,
or for not keeping the shop warm enough in winter !
or for not respecting their offspring ( sawdust ) ,
by throwing it away or burning it .

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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#3 posted 07-31-2009 04:06 AM

Sorry guys, I misspelled the name in the title. It should be HolDren, not HolBren.
Couldn’t change it in “Edit”???

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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#4 posted 07-31-2009 04:24 AM

does that mean trees can now sue birds and animals that do their dirty business on them? Or eat the tree’s fruits and nuts without their permission? Or sue caterpillars for eating their leaves?

-- Oldworld, Fair Oaks, Ca

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#5 posted 07-31-2009 09:03 PM

If the caterpillars can be sued, I have a few tomato plants that would join in a class action.

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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#6 posted 07-31-2009 09:49 PM

Eaaaahh who gets the money??? The lawyers? Ha!..... Hey “mother nature” we will just hold on to this cool 1 mil for ya in an escrow account, till you need it that is.

-- FMG- Woodworking is 90% mental the other half is physical

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#7 posted 07-31-2009 09:54 PM

Trees only have one,, errr,, two rights in my book the right to look lovely in this world and the right to be made into objects for our benefit and natural delight .Sorry trees that’s how I feel Then again I don’t consider trees dead when they are cut down. They only die when they stop moving and the do that untill they are rotted..Alistair

-- excuse my typing as I have a form of parkinsons disease

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#8 posted 07-31-2009 10:18 PM

AH THE WONDERFUL WORLD OF LIBERAL IDIOT’S…....WHAT I WOULDN’T GIVE TO ERADICATE MY WORLD OF THEM!!!! Bill.

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#9 posted 07-31-2009 11:29 PM

Boy, Bill… I’m hoping that comment is directed at Liberal Idiot’s only, and not at Liberals in general… lol

Seriously though, I can see why this piece would upset a lot of people, but I think it’s because it just seems so odd. And it only seems odd, because it isn’t familiar to us. I have to say, that I agree with what Mary Munson said in the article:

“In our legal system, (Stone is) actually saying that rights are something that (are) little-by-little discovered, and in that sense, I’m agreeing with him in that there are rights that exist and we’re just trying to discover what they are,” she said.

Munson explained animals have already come part of the way toward a set of rights.

“(In) the animal rights movement, there have been successful cases where people have upheld animals’ right not to be tortured. And I think a lot of people would agree that animals do have that kind of a right. So it’s just a matter of finding out what are those inherent rights that nature may have.”

I think that’s an intelligent perspective.

I will say that I believe in the natural order of things, but I also believe in the natural rights of things. :)

You wouldn’t want someone burning down a beautiful forest, just because they dislike nature and know that they can get away with it, would you?

-- Tiffany Jeanne Balk ~ Labor, Live, Love, Learn, Repeat.

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#10 posted 08-01-2009 12:24 AM

Heck,T.J., it’s gotten to where I can’t tell y’all apart LOL!! Seriously, I don’t give a rat,s donkey about Stone, Munson,Kennedy,Hilary, Bidden,Obama, ....gotta stop now…fingers sore from typing. There are waaay to many of y’all!!! LOL. Bill.

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#11 posted 08-01-2009 03:41 AM

Look out, Bill! We walk side by side….. to hide our numbers. LMAO

-- Tiffany Jeanne Balk ~ Labor, Live, Love, Learn, Repeat.

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#12 posted 08-01-2009 03:52 AM

To confer the rights of humanity on other than humanity, degrades humanity.
Others may choose that path. I have too much self respect and respect for my fellow humans to walk that way.

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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#13 posted 08-01-2009 05:00 AM

certainly briings a whole new dimension to “Keep off the grass” :-))

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#14 posted 08-01-2009 06:26 AM

Without plants, animals, trees… there would be no humanity to lend rights to. I have so much respect for the life that existed here before us, that exists here with us, and that will undoubtedly continue to exist here after we have come and gone. And because we are the creators of our own system of rights, we have the absolute power to confer them onto anything and everything we so choose, or, only upon ourselves, if we so choose. Why, when we could grant rights to all, would we choose not to? We also have the power to determine individually, what is considered to be degrading, and what isn’t. People have many different definitions of this idea of what is degrading and what isn’t. Degradation is not inherently attached to anything, but only to what we as individuals choose to attach its meaning to. And I suppose that’s all that I have left to say on this subject.

Have a great Saturday, everyone! I’ve got a beautiful (and freshly sanded with 220 grit) wooden rocking bench to prime tomorrow morning! Wish me luck! I’ll post pics when the project is finished! :)

-- Tiffany Jeanne Balk ~ Labor, Live, Love, Learn, Repeat.

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#15 posted 08-01-2009 06:44 AM

The basis of the Constitution is that no person (or the gov’t) has the authority to violate any of our rights.

Good luck with the sanding and painting.

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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