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Forum topic by Oosik posted 04-23-2015 02:16 PM 929 views 0 times favorited 11 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Oosik

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04-23-2015 02:16 PM

Having trouble choosing a drill press based on numerous review that tend to be all over the place.

The top 3 Drill Presses that pop up seem to be the following:
Porter Cable PCB660DP $320
Delta 18-900L $1,000
Powermatic PM2800B $1400

Each of these seem to have a problem with spindle run out. My question comes down to which seems to be the better value, quality, and long term investment? Any experiences or buying advice of what to look for would be greatly appreciated.


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WoodNSawdust

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#1 posted 04-23-2015 02:52 PM

I have a floor model Jet drill press. The table uses a crank to raise and lower it. The problem is there is enough side-to-side play that any fence / stop block setting goes out the window when you raise or lower the table. This happens when I use a forstner bit to drill the plug hole then have to lower the table to drill the through hole.

The moral of this post is that if you plan to use a fence check the side movement of the table before purchasing.

-- "I love it when a plan comes together" John "Hannibal" Smith

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#2 posted 04-23-2015 03:46 PM

My powermax does the same thing.Two schools of thoughts, one deltas have been in shops for 50-70 yrs and you can get over any issues it has. two if repeatable production is important,maybe look to a machine shop type drill press,I would think they would be designed to repeat at great tolerances due to it’s required in a machine shop.just get one with variable speeds i.e with multi pulleys.

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Oosik

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#3 posted 04-23-2015 04:12 PM

What is an acceptable tolerance for woodworking from a drill press? I don’t work with metal minus the random hole that needs to be drilled.

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#4 posted 04-23-2015 04:41 PM

What’re you using it for? I have the Porter Cable and have had no problems with runout. That’s not to say it isn’t there, but I haven’t measured it, and it has not negatively impacted my work. For drilling out mortises, I usually pick a bit that’s 1/32 or so smaller than the width. I’ve used it for drilling drawbores, and sized the bit for the dowel, and there were no issues with fitment. Those would be the most accuracy-dependent things I’ve used it for.

Edit : If you get the PC, go to Lowes’ website and sign up for their 10% mover’s coupon.

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knotscott

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#5 posted 04-23-2015 05:18 PM

Everyone’s needs are different, but I couldn’t justify spending 3x and 4x the price to drill holes in wood without really good reason. It’s very possible than my drilling needs are less than some, but my HF DP drills great holes. I’m sure Grizzly, Shop Fox, Jet, GI, or Craftsman would too.

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WoodNSawdust

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#6 posted 04-23-2015 05:32 PM



What is an acceptable tolerance for woodworking from a drill press? I don t work with metal minus the random hole that needs to be drilled.

- Oosik

Raising or lowering the table and having the (left side) mounted fence be off by 3/8 of an inch?

-- "I love it when a plan comes together" John "Hannibal" Smith

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Oosik

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#7 posted 04-23-2015 05:55 PM



Everyone s needs are different, but I couldn t justify spending 3x and 4x the price to drill holes in wood without really good reason. It s very possible than my drilling needs are less than some, but my HF DP drills great holes. I m sure Grizzly, Shop Fox, Jet, GI, or Craftsman would too.

- knotscott

This is partially my dilemma, it is hard to find good data comparison that takes into account the value gained on top of current/future needs.

How often does anyone with a 4” travel say I wish I had gotten a drill press with a 6” throw or even the times when you wish you could turn the speed down below 300 RPM?

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upinflames

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#8 posted 04-23-2015 11:29 PM

Keep an eye on Craigslist, 2 1/2 hrs away and picked up a 1971 Powermatic 1150A for $75.00….

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greenacres2

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#9 posted 04-24-2015 12:38 AM

New—i’d throw the Jet 17 MF or the woodworking version of the 17 in the mix also—$650 to $750. At the $1000 price range—i’d have to look at 20” swing from Jet, Grizzly. I went from a 13” to a 17” (used Delta 17-965, Craigslist, $300, pretty much unused) last year—that extra depth to the post is HUGE for me. That also took me from 3” of spindle travel to not quite 4”, also a very nice improvement. Runout on my old DP was minimal and that part stayed the same—not enough for me to notice a problem with wallowing out any holes—if i drill a 1/4” hole with a 1/4” bit, a 1/4” screw squeezes through with a push.

Runout, swing and spindle travel were my top priorities. I like the 2-way tilt on the 18-900L, and Delta did that on an earlier 20” variable speed (20-950 if i recall correctly, passed one up for $450 new in the box out of fear on the pulley issues), i’ve read of many problems with the Reeves drive in its short production life, and i think a 17” version before that. I thought i might try to retro fit the table from a 18-900L to mine—but i couldn’t buy all the parts from Delta and/or a few of the aftermarket suppliers.

A few years ago i took a hard look at the PC drill press at Lowes—at that $300 price point there are enough solid used 17” to 20” DP’s out there that i’d personally find it difficult to buy that machine. But, i’m cheap and i’ve got a bottle of Boshield Rust-Free on the shelf!!

Good luck—it’s an agonizing search…i’ve done it!!

earl

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#10 posted 04-24-2015 06:02 PM

I bought a Ryobi benchtop from CL for $75 and couldn’t be happier.
Its a model that is no longer made and has a longer throw than the usual benchtops.
Didn’t want a full size DP due to lack of shop space and don’t really need it.

-- Joel, Encinitas, CA

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#11 posted 04-24-2015 06:31 PM

I have the Powermatic that was the model right before this current incarnation. I really like the long quill travel, and can’t believe that I did without it for so long. The only problem that I have with it is that it is loud. It makes more noise than I think a $1100 drill press should. Other than that it is good. The lever speed change is kinda goofy, but it works well, and drills accurately. I do not have any problem with spindle runout, and have checked it several times. I almost bought the Delta from Amazon, but my local Woodcraft had just assembled the Powermatic and had it on sale to boot. No freight, no assembly; a good deal for me. Either the Delta of the PM will be the best bet IMHO for longevity. With B and D owning PC now, I am staying away from their stuff, even though I have several old PC tools and like them. The new stuff however looks kind of Mickey Mouse to me. Good luck, have fun and work safely.

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