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04-23-2015 11:06 AM

I shouldn’t say I’m a complete newbie to woodworking, but I am a newbie to routers. Up until now, I’ve done things without a router. Now that I have a few projects that I know will make doing them so much easier with a router, I’ve decided to build my own table. I’ve done all the research, pros, cons and designs i can find out there and come up with a solution and a design in my mind that will work with T-tracks and all that.

The next issue however, is what router. I’ve done unlimited amounts of research for weeks. My budget at this point is tight as i’m limited. I’m just a weekender, half serious DIYer, homeowner. I will say thought, that i’m not completely incompetent. I’ve installed 3/4” hardwood, gutted and refinished a half bath, etc. in the last year.

I know i should wait it out and get a good machine like a Bosch, Dewalt, but i would prefer the Bosch, with the plunge attachment as well as the fix base.

Due to my budget, lack of experience, and my time restraints, i’m wondering if anybody has recently bought the Skil router model 1830. It’s the 2.25 HP, variable speed router, with fix base and plunge attachment.

Before the hate fest starts, i want to say that i did find a similar question posted about 3 years ago and i figure in 3 years these machines could be upgraded and better than they were then. I’ve taken into account all that factors that need to be and my situation, but i can’t justify at this point spending $200 + for a router not knowing how much i’ll actually use it, aside from the few projects i have coming up.

Any input will be noted and appreciated.


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#1 posted 04-23-2015 12:33 PM

That is the machine I have in my router table. It has good power and works just fine for what I do with it. I primarily use a router handheld as opposed to in a table; I have the 3 1/4 Hitachi router for that. But that skil router isn’t bad for the normal things a router is used for, dadoes, roundovers etc. I wouldn’t run big bits in it however, doesn’t have the power for it

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#2 posted 04-23-2015 02:20 PM

Tools don’t change that much over time. I went through the same dilemma 2-3 years ago and opted to get a Dewalt DW618. The main reason I decided to not go for the Skil is the collet lock. It’s made of stamped steel and may wear out/break over time. What I found is that the quality steps up more notches than I expected. Not to say the Skil 1830 isn’t usable.

At first I thought I wouldn’t use a router much, but I have been very clearly proven wrong. It’s the 3rd most used tool in my arsenal behind the table saw and ROS sander.

Also note that father’s day isn’t too far off. There’s always some incentive sale that lessens the price difference.

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#3 posted 04-23-2015 03:43 PM

I’m not planning on doing kitchen cabinets or anything like that. Maybe some slots. Round overs, a bit of trim work, dovetails, etc.

It’s true Father’s Day is coming up, however I was hoping to have my table built so I could knock out a bed frame I’m planning which only requires a little trim for it.

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#4 posted 04-23-2015 03:58 PM

The Skil should work, but if you can still return, I’d encourage you to do it. You’d be far better off in the long run for not much more money. The Skil simply isn’t the best router IMO, even at that price point. The PC690LR is on sale at Grizzly for $100….even if you have to pay some s/h, it’s a better value and a better long term router than the Skil. There’s also the Hitachi M12VC for $120 shipped. The DeWalt DW616 for $120 shipped. All have better reputations, and have more accessories that will fit. The Hitachi has variable speed.

If that increase in price is still a deterrent, I’d still return the Skil and buy the $50 HF router saves even more money, and gives you a comparable quality router, leaving money for bitter bits, etc.

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#5 posted 04-23-2015 05:28 PM

I’ve yet to buy anything. Is the dewalt 618 able to adjust height from above the table? I’m always thinking ahead and is rather but quality before I buy something to just get me by. I hate buying things twice.

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#6 posted 04-23-2015 05:29 PM

I’m looking basically for something I can mount on a table but slso has a plunge option.

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#7 posted 04-23-2015 05:54 PM

This one?

A few years ago, Sears Craftsman sold a “kit” had both a fixed base, and a plunge base. Uses both a 1/4” collett, and a 1/2” collett. Came with a fancy Allen wrench to raise and lower without removing the router from a table. I used it to make fine adjustments so I could use the Dovetail jig. Came with a few other parts, like an edge guide, soft start, 6 speed ranges, LED work lights, and a couple DC outlets. Oh, and a nylon duffel bag-like carry-all.

Back then, total cost out the door at sears…$170. Have had zero problems with it. Just need to buy better bits.

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#8 posted 04-23-2015 06:19 PM

I’m looking basically for something I can mount on a table but slso has a plunge option. Dang auto correct above in my grammar… I would rather buy quality instead of buying something twice. But also want to get the job done.

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#9 posted 04-23-2015 06:24 PM

Like I said I’m a newbie to routers…that being said and using the saying there are no dumb questions…how does the macro and micro adjust work? I’ve messed around at the box stores and some models seem like you have to undo the locking mechanism even for the micro adjust to work. But that seems a little counter intuitive IMHO.

Can somebody explain the adjustment mechanism?

And I’m not desperately in need of above the table adjustment for height but I can see how that would be nice. I thought about building a lift or something if it’s too cumbersome..I’m a young guy so I still have a lot to learn.

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#10 posted 04-23-2015 06:27 PM

Sorry posted from my phone and bandit’s post I didn’t see. Very much like that one. Unfortunately the sears here closed down and I like to handle tools before I buy them.

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#11 posted 04-23-2015 06:50 PM

Shssssh! Don’t tell anyone that I told you…

http://www.cpotools.com/factory-reconditioned-bosch-1617evspk-rt-12-amp-2-25-hp-combination-plunge-and-fixed-base-router-kit/bshr1617evspk-rt,default,pd.html?start=11&cgid=bosch-reconditioned-power-tools

I have that very setup, and I love it.

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#12 posted 04-23-2015 07:42 PM

For table use, you’ll want variable speed. It’s a feature available in many routers, but it costs extra. You can also add an outboard speed controller to a fixed speed router. Or, you can just use smaller diameter bits that don’t need to be slowed down. It’s best to get 1/2” collet and use 1/2” shank bits whenever possible. Everyone’s uses are different, but I hardly ever use my plunge bases…they’re handy sometimes, but I just rarely use them….YMMV.

If you can’t squeeze a Bosch, Milwaukee, DW, or PC router w/variable speed into your budget, another decent budget choice is the newer line of Craftsman routers by Chervon Power. They’re a nice step up from the older Ryobi made routers, and should be a step up from the Skil too. I’d opt for the Hitachi over the Cman though…that’s a darn decent router with a good track record.

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#13 posted 04-23-2015 08:10 PM


I ve yet to buy anything. Is the dewalt 618 able to adjust height from above the table? I m always thinking ahead and is rather but quality before I buy something to just get me by. I hate buying things twice.

- JontheMac10

No, the bases for the Dewalt DW618 does not offer above table adjustment.

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#14 posted 04-23-2015 08:14 PM


I m looking basically for something I can mount on a table but slso has a plunge option. Dang auto correct above in my grammar… I would rather buy quality instead of buying something twice. But also want to get the job done.

- JontheMac10

As others have said, the Bosch 1617 and Porter Cable 890 series fit your criteria. I believe the Bosch is slightly cheaper. I also have the Bosch MRF23EVS and it also supports above table height changes. I don’t recommend it because the design doesn’t allow for use with after market lifts.

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#15 posted 04-24-2015 02:49 AM

How about this one?

http://www.sears.com/craftsman-14-amp-2.5-hp-fixed-plunge-base-router/p-00927680000P?prdNo=1&blockNo=1&blockType=G1

it fits basically what i’m looking for and looks to be better quality than the skil. however, if i’m going to buy one i think this one or the bosch are my best options IMHO.

Anybody else have any advice out there?

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