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GravyBones

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04-22-2015 03:08 AM

I ordered an 8” jointer the other with spiral cutter 3HP induction and 76” tables. I get an email it is backordered until after June 1. Grizzly tech support on phone told me they get an order in May 6….I guess that overseas shipment is already been spoken for to customers. I’m in line for the overseas shipment after that even.

My first jointer. I have been working with crooked boards and trying to straighten using egyptian methods the old school way. Can’t wait for the jointer. Then comes a planer, then a bandsaw, then I’ll be ready for a cabinet saw. All these come when I sell my stuff I make and throw the $ right back into tools. I got the bug.

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bbasiaga

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#1 posted 04-22-2015 05:30 AM

Good luck on your tool funding plan. I aspire to have that work out for me sometime too.

I was looking at their 8” jointers too and got the same story from their CS. Several months wait. I’m bummed. Gives me some time to shop around at least.

-Brian

-- Part of engineering is to know when to put your calculator down and pick up your tools.

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#2 posted 04-22-2015 09:27 AM

Its not uncommon for Grizzly backorders to be delivered sooner than the promised date….plan on later, be happy with sooner. Good luck.

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#3 posted 04-22-2015 12:29 PM



Good luck on your tool funding plan. I aspire to have that work out for me sometime too.

I was looking at their 8” jointers too and got the same story from their CS. Several months wait. I m bummed. Gives me some time to shop around at least.

-Brian

- bbasiaga

Thing is, if you don’t actually order it, you aren’t in line to get one. I went ahead and ordered it as they don’t charge your payment method until delivered. So it still gives me time to think about it and perhaps cancel. I don’t think it will make sense to go with another brand at this price point. I am mechanically inclined so I can dial it in as needed. Powermatic and Fox quality control have gone down hill and read about their problems too. I himm-hawed around for a week and lost a place in line for the May 6th shipment. If you wait for them to come in stock, who knows when that will be. CS told me if machines are actually ordered then those people are in line to get one, otherwise you have to wait for a surplus to see it available online. I can always cancel the order.

My driveway has a slight slope upward and is only about 30 feet long. I ordered the liftgate service to get it at ground level. It will only be my brother and I dealing with it from there. I figure I can get the long crate on a couple of furniture dollies and pull it in the garage with my 42” Cub Cadet riding mower while brother pushes on crate. HeeHee. (I am from West Virginia…can you tell?)

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AandCstyle

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#4 posted 04-23-2015 12:27 AM

They have a couple other models that are close to the price of the G0490X. Did you ask about them? Also, it is curious they have the G0490X on sale when it isn’t available. :/

-- Art

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#5 posted 04-23-2015 01:43 PM


Good luck on your tool funding plan. I aspire to have that work out for me sometime too.

I was looking at their 8” jointers too and got the same story from their CS. Several months wait. I m bummed. Gives me some time to shop around at least.

-Brian

- bbasiaga

Thing is, if you don t actually order it, you aren t in line to get one. I went ahead and ordered it as they don t charge your payment method until delivered. So it still gives me time to think about it and perhaps cancel. I don t think it will make sense to go with another brand at this price point. I am mechanically inclined so I can dial it in as needed. Powermatic and Fox quality control have gone down hill and read about their problems too. I himm-hawed around for a week and lost a place in line for the May 6th shipment. If you wait for them to come in stock, who knows when that will be. CS told me if machines are actually ordered then those people are in line to get one, otherwise you have to wait for a surplus to see it available online. I can always cancel the order.

My driveway has a slight slope upward and is only about 30 feet long. I ordered the liftgate service to get it at ground level. It will only be my brother and I dealing with it from there. I figure I can get the long crate on a couple of furniture dollies and pull it in the garage with my 42” Cub Cadet riding mower while brother pushes on crate. HeeHee. (I am from West Virginia…can you tell?)

- GravyBones

I thought Shop Fox = Grizzly? Minus the 2 year warranty and white paint job.

I have the equivalent Shop Fox W1741S on backorder too, first one was damaged by UPS and the in feed table was about of spec by 1/64”. I’m under the impression Grizzly/Shop Fox do not keep a large supply of the spherical/helix head units in stock.

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#6 posted 04-23-2015 05:11 PM

companies are using just in time for orders.that way they don’t have to carry inventory.

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soob

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#7 posted 04-23-2015 06:09 PM

You’d do better to buy the regular knife version and swap in a Byrd head, IMO. Cost is basically the same up front, but you get a regular cutterhead, a set of knives, and when you go to replace the carbide inserts it’ll save you a hundred bucks or so.

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GravyBones

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#8 posted 04-23-2015 06:15 PM

Thanks for idea. I thought of that already. I’d never use the regular knives or its head. I prefer the grizzly spiral over the Byrd spiral because of research done in the comparisons of their finished. Byrd cutters are losing ground these days. It’s $50 more to have the Byrd cutter plus cost of bearings which are cheap. Byrd cutter not what it used to be.

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#9 posted 04-24-2015 04:52 AM


Byrd cutter not what it used to be.

- GravyBones

Not sure where you got the information or how you came to your conclusion but I haven’t seen anything to indicate Byrd has lost any ground. While people can argue over the actual results being equal shearing cuts almost always are better in wood. Byrd makes a wider variety of heads as well, they also cover high quality industrial level machines. You may want to look at cutter cost replacement, Byrd cutters are cheaper (by a significant margin) over Grizzly cutters, at least from Grizzly. FWIW FWW determined that shear cutters like the Byrd, Laguna and the Jet Byrd copy did a better job than all the straight bit cutters.

Then again none of the spiral heads come close to large diameter cutter heads with knives that are ground and jointed in situ, but that is a whole other topic.

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GravyBones

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#10 posted 04-24-2015 05:13 AM

That’s great.

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Oosik

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#11 posted 04-24-2015 01:50 PM

I thought one of the comparison tests showed that it was very hard to tell the difference between a Helix and Spherical cutter heads. The results were practically identical?

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#12 posted 04-24-2015 02:09 PM


You d do better to buy the regular knife version and swap in a Byrd head, IMO. Cost is basically the same up front, but you get a regular cutterhead, a set of knives, and when you go to replace the carbide inserts it ll save you a hundred bucks or so.

- soob

Soob, Gravybones – first off, gravybones? What is that?

The byrd spiral or the spiral that Jet uses is superior to the spiral that grizzly uses. My neighbor has the grizzly spiral, I have the Jet with (from what I can tell is a byrd, though they do not make the claim) and mine is quieter, smoother, faster to cut, shearing action and true helical are making a better cut easier.

I almost bought the G0490 as well. But the delay and the uncertainty of the head and some recent complaints about getting everything to act right lead me away from it last minute. The parallel tables would be awesome but after setting up the dovetail ways on the Jet, no issue at all, Very simple, and possible even simpler than the constant adjustment of the other tables. I have suspect that the dovetail method, once setup, will not change. The parallel tables will move by design with use and need adjustment again.

You can see the curve on the carbide blades. True helical head. There is no value in having the extra head or blades if you follow soob advice, but you will have a better machine and you will likely have to adjust the head to get it flat to the tables anyway, so might as well get a better product.

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soob

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#13 posted 04-24-2015 04:32 PM

You can use the knives that come with it until they’re dull. That lets you hold onto your money for a while. That’s something at least. The finish you get from the jointer isn’t that big of a deal anyway, 99% of the time. You might decide that you don’t really need a spiral cutterhead for your jointer after all.

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BroncoBrian

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#14 posted 04-24-2015 05:40 PM



You can use the knives that come with it until they re dull. That lets you hold onto your money for a while. That s something at least. The finish you get from the jointer isn t that big of a deal anyway, 99% of the time. You might decide that you don t really need a spiral cutterhead for your jointer after all.

- soob

Good point. Agree with that logic.

Get a better tool, spread out the cost.

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GravyBones

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#15 posted 04-24-2015 09:13 PM

Are the scallops easy to sand with the curved blades on the smaller diameter 8” jointer head? Also is there really such a thing as no tear-outs?

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