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Forum topic by bigblockyeti posted 04-19-2015 07:24 PM 758 views 0 times favorited 6 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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bigblockyeti

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04-19-2015 07:24 PM

I buy what lumber I can in rough, dry condition usually cut at 1 1/8” and 6” or wider. Of the handful of guys I use, most calculate what they have cut at 1 1/8” as 1” so a 12” x 12” board would be considered exactly 1 board foot despite actually being a true 1.125 board foot. I’ve gotten some white oak from a new guy who’s a stickler for accuracy and doesn’t round at all. His prices are good enough that I’m willing to overlook it, but on more expensive species that extra 12.5% could add up. How does your sawyer round?


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Ghidrah

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#1 posted 04-19-2015 07:33 PM

All the 5/4 stock I buy is 1 1/8” so it’s already rounded down. The only thing I ever bought from a mill was Locust, I’m guessing if I bought from a mill and wanted 1 1/4” mat I’d ask for it, If I couldn’t get it then I’d go up to 8 or 12/4, then mill it down myself on the BS.

The shop I buy from calcs exactly, I wish they rounded down

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#2 posted 04-19-2015 08:08 PM

To be quite honest, I have never checked. Years ago I bought by the bunk – 4’ x 4’ x 8’ – usually oak, poplar and pine. However since I quit building free standing hutches and cupboards I have only bought from a sawyer once and it was a log of butternut and some white oak cut offs.
The butternut was 3 grades and 3 different prices, the oak was random width and length from 6” wide and up to 6’ long ant the shortest being about 4’ long and at 60 cents a bd.ft. I never even measuered either species.
I do know that when they were done loading my truck ( 6 1/2’ bed ) I had wood stacked above the sides and tailgate down.
So for about $500 I had all the wood I could haul and I didn’t bother to check his math – never felt it was worth the time to try to figure it out.

-- Dick, Malvern Ohio - Your imagination is your only holdup

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#3 posted 04-20-2015 12:32 AM

I saw at 1 1/8” and consider that a rough 4/4 sawn board. I kiln dry and plane the lumber, and 85% of it cleans up to a full 1” thick. I still sell it as 4/4 lumber, giving the customer lot of meat on the bone to assure that they will be able to make the wood work for their project. This is a competitive advantage for me.

The standard in the hardwood lumber business is to saw hardwood lumber green at 1 1/8” thick for a 4/4 board. In the pine lumber business, the standard for a rough sawn green pine board is 1” thick for 4/4.

-- Danny Located in Perry, GA. Forester. Wood-Mizer LT40HD35 Sawmill. Nyle L53 Dehumidification Kiln. hamsleyhardwood.com

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bigblockyeti

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#4 posted 04-20-2015 12:49 AM

That helps clarify things a bit. Most of these guys I deal with aren’t full time sawyers, but either retired or doing it part time. They are far from a full fledged large scale milling operation and it’s now more understandable why I’ve run into the discrepancies I have.

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#5 posted 04-20-2015 12:55 AM

I’ve. Had some round down more than others. I calculate when I get it back to shop. My motto you can short me once but I will never buy from you again or treat me fair and I’ll come back over and over and tell all my friends as well. Been lucky for the most part. My best supplier just passed away. He was a heck of a guy

-- Sooner or later Liberals run out of other people's money.

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#6 posted 04-20-2015 01:08 AM

I purchased red oak last Friday. The 9’ xx” was rounded down to 9’, the x.xx” width was rounded down to x”. But the 4/4 was planed down to 13/16”. Additionally the seller added an additional 10% to the board footage for the cost of planning it. Still at his price it was worth it. 5/4” was almost a dollar more per bf.

So rounding varies.

-- "I love it when a plan comes together" John "Hannibal" Smith

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