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Forum topic by SirIrb posted 04-17-2015 01:54 PM 772 views 0 times favorited 16 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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SirIrb

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04-17-2015 01:54 PM

I thought some of the prices were ok. I am awaiting freight charges for a planer to see how good it really is.

http://www.machineryassociates.com/

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unbob

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#1 posted 04-17-2015 04:24 PM

My best tip on buying used machines is look for original paint in good condition. Often used dealers slap a good paint job on worn out machines. Generally dealers, pay about 1/3 of what they are asking. Most often dealers really don’t know much about the machines they sell-how they work or how to use, repair or test them.
Some dealers like HGR, sell them as they found them-untested and dirty, sometimes the best deals can be found there.

Always keep in mind used is used, wood working machines are high speed, probably will have to replace the bearings, and do a more thorough go threw and clean up.

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#2 posted 04-17-2015 04:35 PM

Dealers sell at a premium… they have to to cover overhead costs. For example, they are selling a used Jet 14 inch band saw for basically list price of a new one. I avoid dealers at all costs for that reason. YMMV.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid

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#3 posted 04-17-2015 05:03 PM

Its funny. Just after I posted this I found a steal on a PM shaper in the little town I live in on CL. I guess I ll stick to waiting and searching CL for the deals.

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#4 posted 04-17-2015 05:22 PM

I am thinking of adding a 2nd shaper, so I looked at the link above and saw a PM26 for $2900-Yikes, that’s way way high!
I have done well using CL, but, its usually a long drive from my remote location.

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#5 posted 04-17-2015 05:34 PM

The one I saw was—wait for it—$550. BAM!. Thought that was good. not sure of the model.

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#6 posted 04-17-2015 06:04 PM

About an average for a PM shaper in my driving range 400 miles one way…!

http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/tls/4978240151.html

I had one for a while, but found I needed a heavier one, above-$700….1800lbs, but came with a lot of cutters. Out of a Boeing pattern shop.

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SirIrb

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#7 posted 04-17-2015 06:07 PM

Was that a 1/2 or 3/4 PM you had? I am trying to remember what these came with and the last time I worked one like it it was 3/4 I believe. But I have been out of the business for 16 years.

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unbob

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#8 posted 04-17-2015 06:24 PM

The PM I had, Came with a 1” non changeable spindle. It was a pretty good machine.

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#9 posted 04-17-2015 06:28 PM


Dealers sell at a premium… they have to to cover overhead costs. For example, they are selling a used Jet 14 inch band saw for basically list price of a new one. I avoid dealers at all costs for that reason. YMMV.

True, but he also had a 20” Jet planer for $1250 that I almost jumped on last week. It sold in a couple of days.
http://www.machineryassociates.com/members/KPWalshAssociates/Jet-JWP2081-Machine-For-Sale-7570

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SirIrb

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#10 posted 04-17-2015 06:29 PM

The picture above is a beast. I love the table extensions. Begging for a power feeder. Absolutely beautiful PM Green.

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unbob

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#11 posted 04-17-2015 07:44 PM

The shaper above was made by Shoda Japan, it appears to be one of only two in the US, both owned by Boeing. The only other one I found for sale is in Japan with a 40mm spindle.
This one has a 1 1/4” non changeable spindle, with 7 1/2” under the nut. The spindle having to be longer then the capacity, has an overhead support bearing that has to be used full time. The upper support travels with the spindle height adjustment.
An unusual machine that is not a copy of anything else ever made.

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#12 posted 04-17-2015 09:38 PM



Dealers sell at a premium… they have to to cover overhead costs. For example, they are selling a used Jet 14 inch band saw for basically list price of a new one. I avoid dealers at all costs for that reason. YMMV.

Cheers,
Brad

- MrUnix


x2

-- Deano

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#13 posted 04-17-2015 09:41 PM



About an average for a PM shaper in my driving range 400 miles one way…!

http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/tls/4978240151.html

I had one for a while, but found I needed a heavier one, above-$700….1800lbs, but came with a lot of cutters. Out of a Boeing pattern shop.

- unbob


what are you working with that size of a shaper? BTW looks like a well made machine

-- Deano

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#14 posted 04-17-2015 09:46 PM

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#15 posted 04-17-2015 09:53 PM

I am so effing envious. I work for an aerospace co. We deal with Boeing alot. I will have to get a lift out to Seattle just to see this thing. It will be hard to steal and sneak out the door stashed under my shirt but worth a try.

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