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ghazard

145 posts in 408 days


132 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: tearout

Hi all…I’m building a box using Mahogany with Paduk accents. I was trimming the paduk spines flush with a flush trim bit on the router table and on the last one got a blowout (see pics below). What do you suggest is the best way to fix this corner? I am considering routing out the corner again to remove all the paduk then re-gluing a new piece in. But a question arises…would I have to take the slot deeper (ie bigger) to expose new mahogany or could I come right up to the glue interface between the two pieces and re-glue on top of that? THe other thought i had was to use a chamfer bit and take off just the corner then glue on a piece and trim it back into a square corner.

Any and all suggestions welcome.

Thanks!

Greg

-- If, in your life, you attain the means to help; you incur the responsibility to act.

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GaryK

9549 posts in 887 days


132 days ago

Cut it out completely and re-do.

You could just leave a very small sliver of paduk. I think you would be hard pressed to notice it.

-- Gary, East TX -- The longest journey begins with a single step.

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a1Jim

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132 days ago

Hey Greg
The best solution I can think of is to lay you box on it’s side and run the corner though the table saw & flipping it so that you have cut the corner out being careful not to hit the side wood. and then re-glue another piece of your corner wood back in placing using tape on the inside and out to protect against glue squeeze out.

I guess was posting the same time GaryK was

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SCOTSMAN

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132 days ago

You don’t really have any other choice than to do what gary suggests it would never be right otherwise and not worth the effort of saving this bad piece Alistair

-- excuse my typing as I have a form of parkinsons disease

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bentlyj

794 posts in 369 days


132 days ago

Looks like you could 45 your corners and get rid of the tearout, but it would change the look of your box, maybe not bad.
I like boxes with chamfered corners, might even do the top edge to match.

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patron

2459 posts in 240 days


132 days ago

ditto on above ,
maybe check the grain on next piece first,
and think router cutting direction before glue up .

-- david ,new mexico ,allheart

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MedicKen

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132 days ago

This is why I love woodworking. Learning how to fix the mistakes and the little problems that can arise in any project. It has given me some well needed patience and perseverence. I agree with Gary and would replace it all together.

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Todd A. Clippinger

5655 posts in 998 days


132 days ago

I’m with Gary K and a1Jim.

It happens to all of us sooner or later.

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ghazard

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132 days ago

Ok, thanks. Looks like cutting it out and regluing is the way to go.

Bentlyj, I had thought about that. But I decided that, since this is my first attempt at a box assembly like this, I would take the opportunity to learn how to make a fix when something like this happens…

I will definitely pick my next piece closely for grain.

Thanks everyone!

Greg

-- If, in your life, you attain the means to help; you incur the responsibility to act.

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GaryK

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132 days ago

Greg – It’s not so much a matter of choosing your grain, but cutting it using a method that won’t cause it to split.

Since you are using a router table you want to cut it in the proper direction. Don’t cut in the direction that makes the router bit “scoop” out against the grain, but “push” it down.

Basically cut with the grain.

-- Gary, East TX -- The longest journey begins with a single step.

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TopamaxSurvivor

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132 days ago

Gary, What would you do it this case, run it through the router backwards very slowlY?

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ghazard

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132 days ago

I’ve been in the shop…although not fixing the corner…I’ll do that next weekend…I moved onto shaping some 1/8” thick paduk for some inlay on the lid. It is very delecate to work with. The grain seems not to be very strong. This is my first time working with Paduk and also working with stock this thin…is that typical of paduk?

-- If, in your life, you attain the means to help; you incur the responsibility to act.

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ghazard

145 posts in 408 days


131 days ago

Gary, it sounds like climb cutting is what you are describing…is that right? I will get a chance to fix the corner in a few days, Until then…I’ll take all the help I can get.

Thanks,

Greg

-- If, in your life, you attain the means to help; you incur the responsibility to act.

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parkerdude

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130 days ago

Hi Greg,

Have you tried a solid carbide down-cut spiral router bit. It pushes the chip toward the work piece and produces a MUCH smoother cut. Just know that they don’t clear chips as well as an up-cut spiral, and are not as good on deep cuts like mortises.

Like many of those suggestions above, I’d re-cut back to the glue line and replace the whole piece.

Good Luck.

-- dust control

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LesB

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130 days ago

For TopamaxSurvivor. All he has to do is turn the box around and over and run it through the router table the other direction….which will be with the grain. Making several shallower cuts would probably also work.
Another concern is if those Paduk pieces are just straight strips of wood, what is holding the box sides together besides glue? Which will work fine unless the box is dropped.

-- Les B, Oregon

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SCOTSMAN

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130 days ago

I suppose if the box ever gets dropped it’s trouble anyway you look at it.You could also round of the four ends with a large disc sandet or belt sander but as said this might weaken the structure.Alistair

-- excuse my typing as I have a form of parkinsons disease

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