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04-09-2015 11:42 PM

Topic tags/keywords: resource plane collection planes european plane acorn testa talco mibro shelton jordan drp woden rapier

It’s really a good idea to keep a record of your woodworking tools for many reasons. Least of which, for an insurance claim, be it fire, flood, or burglary. More likely, my widow will likely blow off all my planes for a dollar each. So.. I’ll make a cross-reference in Excel for an anticipated retail price, if she’s so inclined.

All kidding aside, here’s some crazy planes that deserve an honorable mention, mostly orphans that go through life unwept, unhonored and unsung, having had their day or two on a bench at some time. I am the Bob Barker of hand planes, and these are my elephants, to put it another way. See something that makes you curious? Just ask me questions and maybe I can help you identify something you have.

Various “Footprint” #4s. I like these, they are a nice, generic plane that holds an edge pretty well.

Benchmark, Acorn, Testa, Talco, Mibro. The Benchmark is a solid user, haven’t spent much time on the other four.

Hoppe, Kunz 3, Kunz, Este, Este, and Hoppe. These are all from West Germany, which dates it to the 1960’s but maybe earlier. Postwar rebuilding effort, y’know.

Rapier 400, 450, 500, 400, 400, 11, 400. My preferred British planes, right up there with better Records.

Talco #5, Mibro, Woden W5, Woden #W5, Dronfield #4 Britain.

Pope-Falcon F5, Falcon F5 (Australia) Memo Eskiltuna (Sweden) #5

Record #03, Record/Marples #04, Record 04-SS, Record 05, 05, 05, Record 07-SS, Record #04, #04 All British.

Three Falcon-Pope #4s, a Kunz, and a DRP Jordan #4, last 2 are West Germany.

Lastly, the cabinet where most of my #3 and #4 critters live.

Hope you enjoyed the presentation! All kind comments welcome!!

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!


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#1 posted 04-09-2015 11:52 PM

Wow

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#2 posted 04-10-2015 12:22 AM

:-)

(That’s me speechless)

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#3 posted 04-10-2015 02:10 AM

Poop you da man when it comes to exotic planes!

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#4 posted 04-10-2015 11:34 PM

Thanks, guys!
I knew I could raise an eyebrow or two with those old relics!

Mostly, these will be in queue for when I reach retirement, where they will get refurbished minimally, sharpened, test driven, then, hmm I dunno maybe just put on static display? I haven’t really thought beyond that point. Most of these look worse in the pics than they actually are. I’m still busy buying more!

Happy hunting, everyone!! Still plenty of ‘em out there, ready to take home with you, no matter where you are.

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#5 posted 04-24-2015 02:18 AM

A point to be made here, is that I often hear of people who prefer not to get out there and find vintage planes like this. What you see above is what can happen if you make a point of always pulling in to a ‘Habitat for Humanity’ store in your neighborhood, for example. Are you keeping an eye on your local Craigslist, or Canadian Kijiji? Do you know when the next antique show at a local venue is scheduled? Do you drive right past yard sales without stopping? Ever been to a church Rummage Sale? Thrift shops?

These modest, low-priced examples pictured above are all good to have, for other reasons. It’s really gratifying to find an unusual plane, clean it up and discover a righteous user for low cost.

It does take effort, gasoline, and time to find this stuff and bring it home. I will, however, admit to being just a little obsessed with it all.

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#6 posted 01-03-2017 04:48 PM


Are you keeping an eye on <snip></snip> Canadian Kijiji?

I am. And whenever I find a plane that I haven’t heard of, I Google it. Surpisingly (or not!), these searches often have one of your LJ posts near the top of the results :-0

Today, it was a Testa in Newcastle with a Mibro:

I’d never even heard of a Testa until today. Oddly, the only photos I’ve seen of a Testa also have a Mibro with it, like yours above.



Benchmark, Acorn, Testa, Talco, Mibro. The Benchmark is a solid user, haven’t spent much time on the other four.

Do you know where these (Testa, Mibro) were even sold?

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#7 posted 01-03-2017 05:17 PM

Have seen the Este planes around here…..except the lever cap will say Dunlap. Careful trying to replace the iron on one of the Este planes…..they are metric in width, and narrower than the US sizes…which will not fit.

Handles are always painted with a thick coat of red paint, but once you remove the paint, still look fairly nice.

Paul Sellers has a blog about rehabbing these type of planes.

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#8 posted 01-03-2017 05:52 PM

Hi, Kent! I’m sure that the Mibro line was popular in Canada and may have its origin north of the 49th. Mibro had a broad line of tools, a kind of Stanley wannabe in Canada. Specializing in homeowner grade tools in hardware section of department stores. They may have British origins, I just don’t know. My Mibro’s are solid little planes, but have no special qualities to make them stand out. The Testa was a British or German thing, probably never imported offshore, my example was an eBay find from GB many years ago. Bandit: The Este/Dunlap line was sold through Sears Roebuck stores, and included a wide line from gardening tools to paintbrushes. Interesting about the cutter width. Maybe that’s why so many Dunlaps survive, you can’t snarf the blade for anything else!

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#9 posted 01-03-2017 06:38 PM

I will, however, admit to being just a little obsessed with it all.

I’d say that is an understatement. Awesome collection!

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#10 posted 01-03-2017 10:30 PM

PK I checked out Mibro a little further. You are correct; they’re in North York (Toronto), and they still make/sell some tools. These are mostly drill bits, taps and dies sold through Home Hardware and some carded items on Amazon.ca labeled as ACE hardware.

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#11 posted 01-04-2017 02:42 AM

I have seen horrific Sargent Dunlaps, and great Millers Falls Dunlaps.

Can we get a better pic of these Este ones? I’d like to see the frog faces, etc. It might aid in identification of the few I find locally.

And I really do mean few. Minnesota is a plane desert these days. Craigslist normally only has the restored ones that one guy sells, and I think they’re overpriced.

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#12 posted 01-04-2017 02:43 AM

Nice collection, are you familiar with lakeside planes?

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#13 posted 01-04-2017 03:55 AM

frog face of the este/Dunlap..

Sometimes, they took the red paint thing a bit too far,

pretty, ain’t it..

And the No. 5 Dunlap/Este…..

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#14 posted 01-04-2017 06:09 AM

Glenn, I’ll set up a photo shoot first thing in the morning. Yeah, I have a few questions myself, like how I am sure some of them are stamped “Made in West Germany” and that is the best clue you can ask for, regarding age. Bondo: Thanks for enabling me! I should consider culling the herd, but I have not sold one in 15 years or so. Corelz: Yeah, Lakeside planes were the house brand of the now-defunct Montgomery Wards. I recall when my hometown Monkey Wards was closing, there were Lakeside planes and tools by the dozens for very little money, and they were all screwed up badly, like mangled stamped steel yokes that one bozo or another forced by over tightening the wheel, or lever caps missing or cracked. I don’t touch ‘em because of that image in my head. If you have one, you might be able to work it up into something useful, I just don’t know but remember it is a plane originally sold on a department store shelf. Bandit: in that first photo, do I see “Fulton” on the lever cap? Interesting variety, if so.

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#15 posted 01-04-2017 06:17 AM

Yep…have had both kinds come through the shop….on the #3 size….might check of the angle the frogs sits at, had one come through with a York Pitch. Bottom of these frogs are flat, it is the seat that gets angled to tip the frog into a higher angle~ 50 degrees or so.

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