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04-09-2015 10:21 PM

Topic tags/keywords: ash question clothespins emerald ash borer heritage clothespins

I have been using Ash to make clothespins and have seen interesting marks in the lumber. Are these a result of the emerald ash borer?

-- www.heritageclothespins.com


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#1 posted 04-09-2015 10:25 PM

It could be. Most of the damage I’ve seen from borer beetle is in the surface of the trunk, just below the bark.

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#2 posted 04-09-2015 10:27 PM

It looks like something ate through the wood, and then the wood grew back and filled in the path that the bug took.

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#3 posted 04-09-2015 10:47 PM

I believe this is some type of worm, the emerald ash borer stays out at the bark

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#4 posted 04-09-2015 10:58 PM

+1 on borers staying near the surface, basically in the sapwood. The distinctive tunnel made by the emerald ash borer is D shaped. Most insect tunnels are round. Powder post beatles leave a round tunnel and fill it with the powder they excavate as they travel. There are myriad insects this could be, none of which are good for your shop. You can exterminate these types of bugs only by heating the wood to near boiling point until the center is over 200° for an hour or so. Insecticides do not penetrate far enough, even the vaporous ones. YMMV, but that’s what I’ve been told by experts.

Powdered Borax scattered around your wood pile will discourage new infestations and minimize spiders too.
DanK

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#5 posted 04-10-2015 04:02 AM

It’s kind of hard for me to tell from the pics but I see some very similar characteristic markings in ash which I never thought of as bug trails but could be, I suppose. However, I have wondered what causes them. I’ve not known it to be anything but solid. Are yours loose, or voids ?

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#6 posted 04-10-2015 08:01 PM

Medullary rays.

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#7 posted 04-10-2015 08:42 PM

I have seen these marks in ash.

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#8 posted 04-10-2015 08:47 PM

It does look much like medullary rays as Chris stated, are there any voids in the wood or is it just a variation in the appearance of the surface?

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#9 posted 04-10-2015 09:05 PM

Where do you get your wood? Is it locally sourced? Most states with Emerald Ash Borer infestations have placed quarantines on the wood to control the spread. In Ohio, unfinished Ash wood cannot leave the county where it was cut, that includes everything from firewood to fine quality lumber and construction materials. Finished (sealed) pieces like furniture and cabinets can still be shipped, but In Kentucky the Louisville Slugger company was having trouble getting raw materials because of quarantines. Expect the quarantines to be extended this year, as last summer they found that the Emerald Ash Borers were infecting other species of trees, also a fungal blight spread by beetles is damaging walnut trees.

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#10 posted 04-10-2015 09:20 PM


+1 on borers staying near the surface, basically in the sapwood. The distinctive tunnel made by the emerald ash borer is D shaped. – Dan Krager

+1,Distinctive “S” shape groove near the surface and “D” shaped exit holes.

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#11 posted 04-10-2015 09:31 PM

Are Ohio’s counties still quarantined? I remember seeing the signs a few (3-5) years ago then they disappeared. As I understand it, that requirement was lifted as the beetle was in every county in Ohio anyway, is this not correct?

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#12 posted 04-10-2015 11:01 PM

You are correct bigblockyeti, I just checked the Ohio Department of Agriculture website and the intra-state quarantine has been lifted (although Montgomery and Greene Counties were still telling residents not to take the wood out of the county as late as last month). ODA urges caution before moving wood between counties, and says to contact them with questions about moving wood out of state. Local park districts have been cutting down a lot of ash trees then letting residents pick up free firewood, a park near my house lost almost all the trees.

-- Leafherder

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#13 posted 04-11-2015 01:00 AM

bigblockyetti, there are no voids in the wood. It is just variations that look like they would have come from something burrowing through.

leafherder, I get the lumber from Mason's Mill and Lumber. I am not sure where they get it, but I don’t think it is from anywhere close to me as I don’t think we have Ash in my area (Houston, TX).

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#14 posted 04-13-2015 06:23 PM

http://www.mda.state.mn.us/~/media/Files/plants/eab/eabreference.ashx

Good read on different bugs that can get into ash trees.

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