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MarktheWoodButcher

77 posts in 195 days


135 days ago

I can’t go into it right now cause I’m so #%$@&!^ disgusted with my self. But when it takes 50 minutes to make one one sort of 2” x 11 1/2” x 48”cut out of a log on a band saw it’s time to pour a scotch and walk away from the power tools. I wouldn’t trust myself to cut a straight line with kindergarten scissors right now. When I say sort of 2” x 11 1/2” x 48” I mean it starts out 9/4 and ends up 7/4 thick.

The wheels are lined up. The 1/2” Timberwolf 3 tpi AS is centered. I tightened the band till the oscillation stopped. Set the cool blocks and rear roller bearings. I lined up the Kreg re-saw fence using the slice a line half way down an 18” board parallel to the edge. And when ripping the rest of the board using the fence it was way less than a hundredth off. Now I know a 1/2 (that’s one half) HP 14” Rockwell isn’t designed for cutting logs. But the guy at Suffolk Machine said I shouldn’t expect to go any faster than a foot a minute. H%$* I wasn’t cutting an inch a minute. And the saw cut out on me four times because it over-heated. There was some serious kerf pinch on the blade.

The only two things I can think of right now. One is the fence is drifting out of alignment? Maybe it just cant handle the stress from a 90 lb. black walnut log? Number two is operator error. Maybe I can’t handle the stress from a 90 lb. black walnut log.

What did I forget? What am I doing wrong?

-- Knowledge Is Responsibility

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PurpLev

2759 posts in 544 days


135 days ago

black walnut is mighty hard isn’t it? and at 11-1/2” tall? thats a LOT of work for a 1/2hp motor…

did you scribe a line on top of the lumber and followed it by eye (roughly)? I always do that… I use the machine and the fence for guidance, but still follow a line to make sure I’m on track. even with everything aligned – with so much resistance, and hard material, the blade might want to drift aside.

-- When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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Workbench_Warrior

48 posts in 149 days


135 days ago

Hey Doc are you using a jig to hold the log from twisting and rolling? Is the fence side of the log flat? the first two things that came to mind.

-- SAEPE EXPERTUS, SEMPER FIDELIS, FRATRES AETERNI - "Often Tested, Always Faithful, Brothers Forever"

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ahock

72 posts in 219 days


135 days ago

to ease some of the pinch on the blade if that’s causing the problem, pause every few inches and drive a wedge in the end of the cut.

-- Finding satisfaction in creation

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Kindlingmaker

1471 posts in 422 days


135 days ago

Two weeks ago I tried to cut a 10/4 piece of mazanita (extremely dry) that was 10” x 40” and burnt the wood, angle cut it and destroyed my blade. After the smoke cleared I anchored the wood to the work bench and ground it down with a belt sander. I needed a 6/4 piece and wanted to save the fall off but no way, I just ground it down… I know your frustration…

-- Never board, always knotty, lots of growth rings

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PineInTheAsh

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135 days ago

I would turn off all power tools, walk away, and then pour the scotch.

Many have been there. You’ll be amazed at the clarity another day brings.

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SCOTSMAN

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135 days ago

I like the photograph you’ve posted is that a recent picture of Ertha kit.? Alistair

-- excuse my typing as I have a form of parkinsons disease

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MarktheWoodButcher

77 posts in 195 days


135 days ago

In reverse order
Alistair, She’s called the ugly woman of York. According to Brit lore she’s a 17th century aristocrat who didn’t pay the artist for an earlier painting so he immortalized her on a wall painting in York.

The scotch was 60 feet from the shop, Pine. Everything was shut down before I poped the cork. Glenlivet Nadurra is fine. I feel better already.

Is mazanita tough to cut? I’ve never heard of it. Oops, my ignorance is showing.

I did the wedges , Ahock

Yep, Joe. I made jig to brace the log. But some of the squealing that blade made makes me think there was still some twisting.

-- Knowledge Is Responsibility

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MarktheWoodButcher

77 posts in 195 days


135 days ago

PurpLev, I snapped a chalk line but it was pretty hard to see.

-- Knowledge Is Responsibility

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a1Jim

16852 posts in 473 days


135 days ago

Hey Mark
already lots of good suggestions I didn’t see a new blade in there and also Ahock’s making sure the blades not being pinched. also rounding the back of the blade with a stone and a little bees wax on the blade.

-- Jim from Heirloom Woodshop Southern Oregon

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Douglas Bordner

3424 posts in 959 days


135 days ago

If you’re not in the flow, it’s time to go. That’s been the watch-word of late in my shop. No recourse to single-malt here, but I do remember it fondly. Hope things do better when you are back at the saw.

-- "Bordnerizing" perfectly good lumber for over a decade.

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Kindlingmaker

1471 posts in 422 days


135 days ago

Mazanita is VERY brittle and if someone said they could make table saw blades out of it I would believe them!

-- Never board, always knotty, lots of growth rings

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Karson

25802 posts in 1296 days


135 days ago

When I have a problem resawing it is usually a dull blade. That can come about with hitting some sand and grit when resawing a log. I had a brand new blade. I hit the log and saw sparks. It was gone.

Everything can be OK on the saw but if the blade is gone you won’t be able to cut anything. If it bows then it means the set is gone on one side of the blade. The guides are holding it in line on the entry and exit point, but the middle bows out. Again dull and more of it on one side of the blade.

-- What happens in the workshop stays in the workshop. No wait that doesn't sound right. Karson Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

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MarktheWoodButcher

77 posts in 195 days


135 days ago

Jim and Karson, It was a new blade, I used the Olshen blade lubricant ( a lot of it) and I pressure washed the logs before I started. That’s not to say there couldn’t be any garbage in the bark or wood for that matter. But no sparks or metal grinding sounds.

-- Knowledge Is Responsibility

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kjwoodworking

202 posts in 783 days


135 days ago

Dang Mark, when I saw the picture I thought I knew the problem…..Your too sexy for woodworking…....well now that I know that is not you, I have no Idea…..I can’t get that ugly ass woman’s picture out of my mind…..Thanks a lot

Well at least she is stacked…wrinkly but stacked.

Sorry I shouldn’t have gone there!!

-- Kirk H. -- http://www.kjwoodworking.com

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Karson

25802 posts in 1296 days


135 days ago

Try resawing a piece of 2X4 . If it won’t cut it, I’m back to dull. Put an old blade pr another new one back in and try it also.

-- What happens in the workshop stays in the workshop. No wait that doesn't sound right. Karson Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

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MarktheWoodButcher

77 posts in 195 days


134 days ago

That’s the closest thing I’ve heard to a plan, Karson. I’m going to give that a try tomorrow.

-- Knowledge Is Responsibility

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MarktheWoodButcher

77 posts in 195 days


134 days ago

since you are so smitten by my avatar, Kirk, here’s a link for you http://z.about.com/d/arthistory/1/0/h/l/vett_ngl_08_08.jpg

-- Knowledge Is Responsibility

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Brad_Nailor

1216 posts in 853 days


134 days ago

AHHHHHHH! You should put a warning or a disclaimer on that link! I clicked on it clearly not prepared for what I saw….

-- David, South Windsor, CT "I love the smell of sawdust in the morning"

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matt garcia

720 posts in 567 days


134 days ago

Man, she makes Susan Boyle somewhat attractive…..........not!!

-- Matt, Houston Texas

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Cantputjamontoast

173 posts in 328 days


134 days ago

Whoa!!!! I’m no beauty queen but whew!!!!!!!

-- "Not skilled enough to wipe jam on toast!"

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Karson

25802 posts in 1296 days


134 days ago

Mom, Mom someone stole your picture.

-- What happens in the workshop stays in the workshop. No wait that doesn't sound right. Karson Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

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Greg

223 posts in 204 days


134 days ago

A while back I had a problem resawing some 16/4 oak with a new 3 tpi blade and it took me what seemed like forever to cut about 20 inches. I stopped and worked on something else for a while. I went back to the bandsaw a few hours later and realized that when I put the resaw blade on I put it on with the teeth facing upwards instead of down. After a good laugh I changed it and all was fine. Even after using a bandsaw for over 40 years I can still make dumb mistakes.

-- Each and Every step of any project should be considered your masterpiece if you want the finished product to reflect the quality of your work. Greg Little

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kjwoodworking

202 posts in 783 days


134 days ago

I don’t understand everyone’s problem.

She’s HOT!!!!

Could you imagine the kids that would come from that?

I must admit that I have made Greg Little’s blade mistake. I did notice before I cut, but I did install it wrong.

-- Kirk H. -- http://www.kjwoodworking.com

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MarktheWoodButcher

77 posts in 195 days


134 days ago

May the saints protect us all !!! Show some guys some cleavage, any cleavage and they lose all perspective. I’m just sorry for Kirk that the object of his ardor kicked the bucket over 400 years ago.

Karson, the blade cuts #2 yellow pine 2×4 just like you would expect a new blade would. It’s time to try the sled in a slot method I guess.

-- Knowledge Is Responsibility

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Karson

25802 posts in 1296 days


133 days ago

Well that’s great that the blade and saw if OK. If the walnut wood is green it might have a lot of drag on the blade. Are you using any wax or lubricate?

-- What happens in the workshop stays in the workshop. No wait that doesn't sound right. Karson Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

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Hyperhutch

36 posts in 145 days


133 days ago

I have never tried resaw a board that this before. But my bandsaw is 1/2 hp and I have trouble making it through 6” green walnut at times. It’s gets so fuzzy when it’s that wet, and it just can’t seem to clear all the wet walnut ‘eraser’ dust.

Hutch

-- I hope the volume of shavings one creates is directly related to the probablility of one's success, cuz if so I've got it made!!

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teenagewoodworker

2481 posts in 664 days


133 days ago

i had the same problem. i resawed a 10 1/2” high board of sapele that was 40 inches long and thats not extrememly hard stuff but pretty hard stuff. i think that in board that high on underpowered bandsaws you are just giong to have drift no matter what you do so you should just go with a point style fence. at least thats how i see it.

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patrick m

179 posts in 709 days


133 days ago

At 1 1/4 hp I’ve still had this problem, with lignum v for example.. usually muscle it guided slowly w chain saw jig, PLane or go by hand super slow..SUPER SLOW… Then slice a sliver off on the band saw so no kerf or pinching. Grinding then planing by hand.. Let me know how you solve this, I’m ALL over the place when I try resawing hardwoods. And improvise like crazy. Man a long arm radial arm saw would whoop it into shape, then tease the side with band saw. I don’t know… I lose too much wood when I try this. and heve to get better at it my self with the gear I have. Maybe go back to the old school…... See which hand saw they used to use ? two handled large bow saw plane sand plane sand. I don’t know i’m talkin crap’ But am very interested in this topic….
Hmmm Point Style Fence …...... I’ll check it out. Good luck brother, and watch those fingers w scotch n frustration….. I had my pinky dangling 2 yrs back from just a wee bit o’ skin. I kept it, but it’s dead from knuckle up CAREFUL!!!!! Oh never mind I see you popped the cork after. sorry just don’t join my pinky. Alltough The best woodworker I met had 4 fingers gone. HE ended up working harder than before creating beautiful works. Hey that’s what jigs n feather boards are for right.Even saw a girl in Indonesia that craves with her toes, beautiful work…

-- PJM.`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸ ><((((º> ""BY HAMMER AND HAND ALL ARTS DO STAND""1785-1974 nyc Semper Fi, Patrick M

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