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Forum topic by willie posted 04-08-2015 09:18 PM 1018 views 0 times favorited 10 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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willie

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04-08-2015 09:18 PM

Not sure where this one came from but it ended up in the box with all the others waiting to be put back to use. I cleaned all the dirt and grease off this plane and there are no markings of any kind, anywhere. No numbers, names, or where it was made. It has a Stanley iron in it, Stanley Apl 19, 92, which I don’t think belongs.

Nothing about this says Stanley. There is no brass and tote and knob are not rosewood, not sure what they are. The frog is cast with the body of the plane, it is not adjustable or removable. The lever cap is thick pressed steel. It’s the size of a Stanley #4 and is a little heavier. I made a few passes over some walnut with it and even needing sharpened, it works fairly well.

If anyone knows anything about this plane, I would appreciate any info you can give me. Thanks, Willie

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#1 posted 04-08-2015 09:34 PM

Might be a ParPlus #4?

Have a #5 size with a frog like that. The lever cap might be a replacement.

The iron on mine says PARPLUS and the lever cap is a cast one instead of pressed steel. Seems to work nicely as a 13” long jack plane, not sure how a #4 will work.

Sharpen and use it.

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#2 posted 04-11-2015 08:43 PM

Definitely a lesser quality pressed steel later model plane. Bandit may be correct.

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#3 posted 04-11-2015 09:39 PM

Yup, the give away clue is the hook-nose yoke. Reminds me of Danny Thomas. Er, the guy on the right.

Don and Bandit are quite right in my opinion! No other plane I know of has a yoke like that.

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#4 posted 04-11-2015 11:46 PM

And that’s no yoke!

Sorry, I’ve had a couple!

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#5 posted 04-12-2015 01:55 AM

Here’s mine:

With correct ‘ParPlus’ cutter.

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willie

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#6 posted 04-12-2015 02:20 AM

Thanks for all the info guys! This is a new one on me. Never saw or heard of ParPlus. Where were these made? And were they made by a better known company as a cheaper model or was this all they made? Since this is the first one I’ve seen in over 30 years of looking, are they that rare or have I just been lucky, or unlucky enough to not find one? Thanks again! Willie

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#7 posted 04-12-2015 02:24 AM

I’d say you were lucky not to have found one before this. I have a couple that I bought when I first started rust hunting. I use them to show people what NOT to buy when looking.

-- Dave, Colonie, NY

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#8 posted 04-12-2015 12:43 PM

Two different frogs going on here, I am afraid. That Worth model above is the steel version, NOT the one used by ParPlus. The ParPlus IS cast into the base casting, and then a steel insert to hold the lateral adjusted is added on. Totally different frogs.

While the pressed steel thingy can be adjusted to close the mouth, the Parplus one can not be moved. It is cast into the base. About like the earlier versions of the Defiance brand of planes. The late ones were simply re-badged Handymans. The first version was a cast in place frog.

The Defiance had no lateral adjuster.

The insert for the ParPlus was to hold the lateral lever.

There is also a large landing area for the iron to rest on at the mouth

My lever cap was cast, though

Overall, a much better plane than the pressed steel thingy..

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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willie

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#9 posted 04-12-2015 07:44 PM

I don’t think this will be added to the collection then! I did learn something new so it wasn’t a waste of time. Can’t believe this is the first time I found one. Thanks for all the info!

-- Every day above ground is a good day!!!

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#10 posted 04-12-2015 08:36 PM

Only bad debts are uncollectible.
There is no hand plane that is uncollectible.

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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