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04-07-2015 05:35 PM

The title pretty much says it all. I’ve seen for and against it, but a lot of the against is people saying they don’t own it but it’s overpriced. I have other tools that are on the list, however this is one I keep debating on the purchase of. I know a bunch of the festool products I could by without, but this one seems like there isn’t a less expensive alternative. I would like to hear from owners of the products if it’s really worth the cost.

-- Phillip- Measure twice, cut onc.... Hey look, it's rustic.


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#1 posted 04-07-2015 05:49 PM

I imagine if you run a production shop it will pay for itself eventually in terms of saved time, but if woodworking is your hobby you might never recoup the cost. In that case, do you think it would simplify or speed up the types of projects that you work on? If so, is that worth $880 or $1375 to you, or is there something else in that price range that would benefit you more?

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#2 posted 04-07-2015 05:55 PM

I’m with Rob…if you do this for income then it’s worth every penny. But for hobbyists? I’ll have to find a used one, I’m not paying that for a new one. So far the 3 or 4 used ones I’ve seen for sale were almost as expensive as a new one.

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#3 posted 04-07-2015 06:44 PM

I am doing it as a small business right now, so I would definitely recoup the cost. I just haven’t seen anything like it so I wasn’t sure if there was an alternative. I know the domino and a biscuit joiner is like apples vs oranges. It would speed up and also strengthen a lot of the smaller joints, and I’ve heard that it does really well on table top glue ups.

-- Phillip- Measure twice, cut onc.... Hey look, it's rustic.

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#4 posted 04-07-2015 06:55 PM

I think if you’re relying such technology to strengthen table top glue ups it would be better to rethink the apron used beneath bearing the weight as opposed to using loose tenons between the boards comprising the top.

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#5 posted 04-07-2015 07:02 PM



I think if you re relying such technology to strengthen table top glue ups it would be better to rethink the apron used beneath bearing the weight as opposed to using loose tenons between the boards comprising the top.

- bigblockyeti

I typically don’t use anything but glue to do the table top. I’ve just seen a few blogs and builds showing it used on more of the simplistic styles. Like a reclaimed wood top with hair pin legs. I can see the “need” there I guess, but if I do the glue up right then I would hope I wouldn’t even need it then.

-- Phillip- Measure twice, cut onc.... Hey look, it's rustic.

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#6 posted 04-07-2015 07:06 PM

I really like a lot of the mid century modern pieces too. I’ve seen it used a lot more there to make the narrow joints a lot stronger.

-- Phillip- Measure twice, cut onc.... Hey look, it's rustic.

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#7 posted 04-07-2015 08:13 PM

I Bought it when it first came out. I was doing a hutch and had done a lot of floating tenon, so thought it would be great. I priced the tool into the piece, and got the DC and tool and saved a bit.

It does everything it’s advertised to do. The integrated DC in festool is topnotch. I made a lot of pieces, and all came out great.

I only sold it when I had a need for large M&T and it did not meed that requirement. I bit the bulled and bought the floor model Powermatic Mortise machine with tilting table and sold the domino to help offset most of the cost.

I love the big machine, but there are times I wish I’d hung onto the domino. I sold it for close to what I paid for it. Another great feature of Festool, if you do sell they go quick and don’t go down in value.

Still miss that little jewel.

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#8 posted 04-07-2015 08:24 PM

There is some overlap between the domino and biscuits but there are some differences as well. Biscuits don’t make good alternatives to mortise and tenons where dominos do. It probably is closer to dowels in comparison but it’s a lot faster to setup and use. I don’t own one but i did borrow one for a project I was working on and it worked really well. It’s fast and easy to use which as others have said is key for production work. I can’t think of a faster way to make loose mortise and tenons honestly. If I was making pieces for resale I would own one no questions asked. As a hobbyist it’s a harder call to make.

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#9 posted 04-07-2015 08:33 PM

I’ve owned one for a few years now and use it for production work. I appreciate its accuracy for alignment as well as the reliability. If you can get over the price I’d be willing to bet that you’ll put it to good use.

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#10 posted 04-07-2015 08:36 PM

Like most others here I would say that Time is Money so in a Production Shop doing a Lot of loose tenons then yes , but for a one time use or very few times in a year I would think a bench top or floor model Mortise machine would be a better bet.

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#11 posted 04-07-2015 08:47 PM

As a hobbyist, I have to say it is not about the money. I just bought one b/c it will change the way I design a project. I can rely on joinery with the domino in different situations where I might have had to use pocket screws or mortise and tenon.

There seem to be so many fun ways to use this and from the video it appeared to be error free. It is. Dead on accuracy and repeatability. I bought it with the accessories to make spacing and repeating smaller domino project quickly.

Love it.

Festool is overpriced, no way to argue around that. Compared to a jointer for the same money or a decent table saw…? Seriously, it is expensive. But you will appreciate every penny of it know it is the quality we wish a similarly price tools had.

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#12 posted 04-07-2015 09:04 PM

I recently asked a similar question about the Domino XL: http://lumberjocks.com/topics/89146

The answer so far for me is yes, the Domino is worth it. Out of the box it is intuitive and dead-on accurate. I’ve only practiced with it so far, but I have a few projects upcoming with a combined total of >100 mortise and tenon joints.

Even though I am a hobbyist, the time saved with the domino vs traditional mortise and tenons should allow me to build one or two more projects this year. For me, that’s what it’s all about right now.

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#13 posted 04-07-2015 09:04 PM

I do custom pieces and honestly I am focused on a market that buys higher priced items (not that we all aren’t) so I think the design options the domino opens up would definitely help me in this market. Smaller, tighter joints. I just wanted to check here to make sure I’m not just thinking this in my head. I may not use it every day since I won’t be building the same item twice, but I could definitely see using it on a majority of the designs I have drawn up.

-- Phillip- Measure twice, cut onc.... Hey look, it's rustic.

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#14 posted 04-08-2015 05:13 AM

Phillip

Sounds like you need to call Bob M and get that ordered! Good luck. You will be glad you did.

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#15 posted 04-08-2015 06:15 AM

I’d really like one, but I’m waiting for the Harbor Freight clone to come out at $79.95 (not counting the 20% coupon).

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