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Forum topic by MikeDVB posted 04-06-2015 08:32 PM 983 views 0 times favorited 9 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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04-06-2015 08:32 PM

Hey guys!

I have a Kobalt 10” SCMS right now that I’ve had for quite a while. I think I paid $180 for it on-sale a few years ago and the current model goes for ~$199.

It’s a single bevel and isn’t the most amazing saw in the world but has gotten me by when it came to basic framing and chopping lumber. I admittedly hadn’t used it much for actual mitering in the past but now that I am starting to make things beyond framing I am starting to see how much this saw was not designed for precision.

I’ve not really set a budget but I’m open to anything built to last that has all of the necessary adjustments available to ensure the saw stays accurate with use.

For now I plan on just placing the saw on a mobile stand of sorts and using FlipTop stands to help me support longer wood as needed.

Something with a laser that can be adjusted to accurately represent the edge of the cut would be amazing – the laser on the saw I have now is all but useless for anything beyond a rough estimate of where the blade may go.

Thanks!

-- Mike


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#1 posted 04-06-2015 10:14 PM

I just upgraded my Kobalt 10” SCMS….

I picked up an older DeWalt DW706 12” Dual Bevel Miter saw (non-slider) off of Craigslist.
I went with a non-slider, as a slider wastes a lot space (for the rails).
I may keep the 10” slider, if I can find the storage space.

Were money not a factor….
http://www.cpotools.com/bosch-gcm12sd-12-in--dual-bevel-glide-miter-saw/bshngcm12sd,default,pd.html?ref=pla&zmam=31282435&zmas=47&zmac=724&zmap=bshngcm12sd&kpid=bshngcm12sd&gclid=CjwKEAjw3YipBRDL2bHhjLmFkQsSJADtzktja0nMyTy1BHtHOETFluyV7MnVj5Ri1bivIM8gTvqLrBoCxrXw_wcB

If I were going to dream…. may as well dream BIG….
https://www.festoolproducts.com/Festool-561287-Kapex-KS-120-Sliding-Compound-Miter-p/561287.htm?gclid=CjwKEAjw3YipBRDL2bHhjLmFkQsSJADtzktjwVWjZK1RBhZL1irbMT89BpMIeUTAPjn5PDI9M873-xoCixXw_wcB

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#2 posted 04-06-2015 11:17 PM

I have a “10 Hitachi and used it to cut the miters shown in pic #6 of this project. Mine is VERY accurate, YMMV. HTH

-- Art

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#3 posted 04-06-2015 11:44 PM

I looked at the festool but there are some issues like not being able to bevel past 40 degrees with the extended fence installed.

I don’t quite need a $1400 saw though – I just need something that is accurate and repeatable and easy to adjust should things go out of whack.

The articulation on the Bosch does look interesting to say the least but I wonder how that will hold up over the years and what adjustment there is to take up the slack.

I also read something about having a light above the blade as apposed to a laser which casts a shadow giving you a more accurate representation of the blade edge without calibration.

-- Mike

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#4 posted 04-06-2015 11:48 PM

Yeah I don’t think I can trust the bosch articulation to remain true and I don’t want to fiddle with it constantly.

I’m OK with the saw having a decent sized footprint.

Are the dewalt SCMS any good?

-- Mike

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#5 posted 04-06-2015 11:52 PM

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#6 posted 04-07-2015 12:00 AM

The DWS780 looks a bit more robust but I’m honestly not sure what the difference is between the two at a glance.

Will need to look more closely.

-- Mike

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#7 posted 04-07-2015 12:03 AM

So many choices – I just don’t want to get something that is crap and will last while being adjustable to keep things square and true.

-- Mike

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#8 posted 04-07-2015 01:49 AM


The DWS780 looks a bit more robust but I m honestly not sure what the difference is between the two at a glance.

Will need to look more closely.

- MikeDVB

The DWS780 is a single bevel slider. The DW716 is a dual bevel non-sliding.

Do you really need a 12in. saw? Unless you are cutting a lot of tall crown molding, a 10inch saw has some serious advantages (weight, space, cost of blades, less blade deflection). For most woodworkers a 10 inch slider has the best combination of features and benefits. Is some cases a 8-1/2in slider is enough.

I think the DeWalts are some of the best at keeping alignment and I like most of their saws. For a 10 inch slider, the DeWalt DW717 is a very nice unit. If getting a 12inch slider, I actually prefer the Milwaukee

Honestly, once you get to that level, all of the saws are pretty good. Any DeWalt, Milwuakee, Bosch or Hitachi would serve you well and be a good upgrade over the Kobalt (which I own, BTW. I only really use it for construction chores, so am not planning to upgrade any time soon.)

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#9 posted 04-07-2015 01:53 AM


I also read something about having a light above the blade as apposed to a laser which casts a shadow giving you a more accurate representation of the blade edge without calibration.

- MikeDVB

Yes, the DeWalt XPS system uses a bright LED light above the blade. Instead of a laser line, you get the shadow of the blade. It’s much nicer than a laser. As you said, no calibration, it shows both sides of the blade very accurately and is able to be used in much brighter conditions than a laser.

-- "Good judgement is the result of experience. A lot of experience is the result of poor judgement."

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