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04-05-2015 12:14 AM

Bought a 2004 F250 6.0 FX4 Crew cab in Dec. Very nice looking truck, I love it for many reasons such as the interior, large cab size, 4X4 which we need from time to time on job sites when rain slushes things up, it actually rides very nice also. I think it might go down as the worst investment I have ever made. I think I will loose the greatest amount of money in this deal that I have ever lost. I gave low book value for the truck but very soon after replaced the oil cooler, 4 fuel injectors, a wheel bearing, about 5,000.00 in repairs in total. Then yesterday I was going to the job site and the truck lacked power and acceleration. It did not seem starved of fuel, just starved of acceleration power. I am no mechanic but I suspect maybe an issue with my turbo.

The worst part is that I have actually only put around 1,500 miles on the truck myself since I use my other truck a lot also. My other truck, 99 Ram 1500, is just an older truck that does a pretty good job. It is my tool truck.

The only bright side I can see is this truck was bought as a business expense, and as usual I used cash profits from the company. So at this point the truck is a very nice looking tax deduction. It will greatly reduce my tax liability this year. I am too the point where I believe my best option is to put aside around 35,000.00 cash, then take the cash and the truck to the dealer and try and trade the truck with cash in for a brand new truck. I am completely turned off from the idea of buying a used truck in the higher value bracket because of the high risk of greater financial loss through getting burned by a seller.

Just thought I would start this thread thinking someone out there might have some past experience with these trucks and might have some insight or advice, whether it is glass half empty or glass half full advice.

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#1 posted 04-05-2015 12:33 AM

Fix
On
Race
Day

Toyota brand new for you Mr. Jerry.

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#2 posted 04-05-2015 12:37 AM

I thought it was First On Race Day.

Or was it, “Fix Or Repair Daily”.

Not sure about Toyota, looking for a 3/4 ton truck. Does Toyota do a 3/4 ton truck?

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#3 posted 04-05-2015 12:54 AM

Sorry you are having problems with your ‘new’ truck. I always buy used BUT I also always buy that aftermarket warranty. I have had very good luck with those warranties and they have all more than paid for themselves.

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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#4 posted 04-05-2015 01:19 AM

I think any vehicle can be a Lemon and any vehicle can be a gem. Just gotta find the right one.

I had a Neon that i put 200,000 miles on it when i sold it due to a bad transmission pan gasket. It was still driving 3 years later.

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#5 posted 04-05-2015 02:40 AM

Found On Road Dead

-- I meant to do that!

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waho6o9

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#6 posted 04-05-2015 04:04 AM

No 3/4 ton Toyota truck Mr. Jerry.

Truth be told I kinda like the aluminum frame on the new

Fork Over Repair Dough truck:

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#7 posted 04-05-2015 01:40 PM

Jerry, I have the same truck….with a V10 gas engine, though.
180K and not a problem…..so far.

I do lust after the new aluminum framed 250s though.

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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TheFridge

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#8 posted 04-05-2015 02:01 PM

My company drives fords. Rangers, 150s, 350s. Never had any problems and we drive em like scalded dogs.

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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#9 posted 04-05-2015 02:27 PM

The new Fords have an Aluminum Body and a Steel Frame.

I have a a 2004 Ford Truck F150 1/2 ton 4WD 5.4L with 173,000 on it. It’s had it’s share of problems but is still going pretty good. Running a little rough right now. Worst thing with my truck has been the coils on each spark plug.
Drive train and everything else has been good. I bought it new and have taken pretty good care of it. Lot of highway miles.

-- Because I'm gone, that's why!

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#10 posted 04-05-2015 02:39 PM

I just bought a Tundra last year and I love it. It is one of those extended cab ones, with the smaller rear doors. The interior is great and the back seats are roomy, even with the “smaller” back doors, which allow for a longer bed which I wanted. I know that a Tundra technically isn’t a 3/4 ton, but my impression is that they can bury 1/2 ton chevys, fords, and dodges. I may be biased, but I really enjoy my truck. I know it is “foreign”, but not really anymore. Tons are built in Texas, and since you’re in San Antonio, that is likely where yours would be built. I bought mine used with low mileage for around $20k and I love it. I plan to give it to my son who isn’t even born yet.

I understand if you are looking for a diesel truck that will haul trailers every day for decades, a Tundra might not work. But, if you need a dependable truck that has sweet power, nice interior, and can do a lot or rough tasks, Toyotas are great.

For the record, when I test drove a GMC on the same day as a Tundra, it wasn’t even a question. Don’t know about Fords or dodges.

Don’t be scared of buying used. Just buy from a dependable dealer, as gfadvm suggests.

-- The Wood Is Your Oyster

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#11 posted 04-05-2015 04:16 PM

My advice is to get rid of this truck ASAP! I have a friend who has one and it’s nothing but a money pit because of the 6.0 diesel. Here is a link to the common failures on this motor. http://www.internationalpowerstroke.com/6.0L-powerstroke-problems.html and another link with possible upgrades if you want to sink even more money into it but the time to do this was when the oil cooler was replaced and the injectors done. http://www.dieselpowermag.com/tech/0907dp_6_0l_ford_power_stroke_engine/egr_valve.html

If you read this you will notice in the egr cooler section that it describes your lack of power problem.

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devann

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#12 posted 04-05-2015 07:35 PM

I never buy myself a new truck for the jobsite anymore. Everybody, & I do mean everybody I’ve known that purchased new suffered some form of damage before the truck was a month old, myself included. Well, there is one exception, I know a superintendent that used to park his new truck at the front gate and walk into the job so it wouldn’t suffer the same fate as the rest of us.

For a work truck I like to be the second owner, preferably two.three years old, and the first owner to use it as a work truck. One rule about truck buying, I have stayed true to, is to only purchase from someone I personally know. I believe that one rule is the single most important rule about buying a used vehicle.

-- Darrell, making more sawdust than I know what to do with

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#13 posted 04-05-2015 11:49 PM

In early 2000”s, Ford began building the 6.0 L Diesel. The engine has proven to to a weak example. History has proven the engine to suffer from mileage. I appears many of the Ford 6.0 began failing by approximately 130,000/150,000 miles.

I purchased purchased new a 2006 example of this Ford. I ran it for a number of years with just regular maintenance. My mechanic called my attention to problems developing at about 140,000 miles. I then replaced 4 injectors and found a great improvement, but not ‘new’ performance. After another 10k miles, I opted to replace [Preventative Maintenance] the other 4 injectors, ERG valve and ERG Cooler[?] and completely services the turbo.
Total expenditure was over $6k.

I am happy to report ‘New’ type performance for the next 30K miles. I am not going to replace the aging Ford as I have retired an no longer drive 20/30k miles per year.

-- Rustfever, Central California

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#14 posted 04-06-2015 12:11 AM

That 6.0 liter was not a very good motor.not the best motor ford ever used in there heavy duty trucks.

-- Marty.Athens,AL

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#15 posted 04-06-2015 12:24 AM

You guys have been awesome, thanks for the responses so far. More than anything I am just belly aching over this. We have been extremely blessed buying used machines for our shop, and I have had success in buying used vehicles in the past.

I will say though, lesson learned here. At the very least, I strongly encourage buying from a reputable dealer. I think they even use the term certified pre owned as they go througb the vehicle so that they can stand behind the future sale. I suppose lesser vehicles get sent off to whole sale lots, just speculating here as I am not a car guy. Point being one should have better odds at a reputable dealer. That said the only sure fire option to ensure success is brand new, even then a lemon is possible.

I do like my 2 wheel drive 1/2 ton ram, but I get stuck a lot on job sites in the hill country and pulling loads is not as good. That is one thing the f250 excelled at. 3 weeks ago I hauled 50 sheets of 3/4, 7 sheets baltic, and around 25 sheets of 1/4. The truck cruised without hardly noticing the load. Then about 1 week ago I delivered an estimated 55 cabinets on trailer, the f250 had no hesitation. And our rainy season is actually during the winter and so since Dec I needes the 4 wheel drive unit 6 or so times, my other truck I would have been walking.

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