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Forum topic by weldoman posted 04-03-2015 07:44 PM 1112 views 0 times favorited 15 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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weldoman

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04-03-2015 07:44 PM

Going to look @ this bandsaw for sale. You guys have any opinions on it. Couldn’t find much on the web .

Thanks Dave

-- missouri, dave


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#1 posted 04-03-2015 07:49 PM

Here is what grizzlys site has on it.

http://www.grizzly.com/outlet/G4186Z

-- Bill M. "People change, walnut doesn't" by Gene.

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#2 posted 04-03-2015 07:51 PM

You can download the manual for it there as well.

-- Bill M. "People change, walnut doesn't" by Gene.

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#3 posted 04-04-2015 02:23 PM

Came home with the saw last nite. My wife thinks i need to get my head examined, she may be right. Any way It looks good for a 15 year old saw and runs but its a little noisy and I’m sure could use a tune-up and maybe some upgrades. One thing concerning me is the way the motor is mounted. It’s tilted down at a hard angle with all the bolts mounted in rubber so the pulleys have to be misaligned?

Here’s a few pics, Tell me what you think? Put it back up for sale?

-- missouri, dave

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#4 posted 04-04-2015 02:31 PM

Here’s a few more.

-- missouri, dave

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#5 posted 04-04-2015 03:10 PM

I would suggest upgrading the tires and adding a bearing guide system to stabilize the blade. Carter Products makes one.

-- "I love it when a plan comes together" John "Hannibal" Smith

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#6 posted 04-04-2015 03:14 PM

You need to find out why the motor is angled like that first. I would guess belt to tight or too short.

-- Bruce, Boise, ID

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#7 posted 04-04-2015 03:25 PM

I think thatll be a great saw. Maybe new tires. I wouldnt be in too much of a rush to get carter guides. They are quite expensive. The guide blocks were pretty effective on my old saw. There may be some cheaper options for getting guide bearings. I think i would get rid of those rubber bushings. They may not helping and are probably why the motor is crooked.

-- Bill M. "People change, walnut doesn't" by Gene.

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#8 posted 04-04-2015 04:44 PM

what were they asking for it? looks in good shape,may need a need blade right away,and maybe the bearing behind the blade, looks like alot of sawdust packed in it.maybe just cleaned with wd-40 and a toothpick.

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#9 posted 04-04-2015 05:45 PM

Haven’t had time to play with it yet, it could use a good cleaning, the motor setup is my main concern now. The guide blocks are metal, is there a better alternative thats not to pricey? Also it didn’t come with a fence and I don’t know if the OE fence is worth replacing?

The seller was asking $435.,I bought for it $375. Good deal? I dunno, too early to tell. The tires are rubber and appear to be in good condition I wouldn’t think they’d be a problem but I’m no expert.

Thanks, and keep the advice comin, Dave

-- missouri, dave

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#10 posted 04-04-2015 05:54 PM

Thats probably a fine price for an 18” saw. There may be cool blocks that will fit.

-- Bill M. "People change, walnut doesn't" by Gene.

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#11 posted 04-04-2015 06:08 PM

Replace the bearings (wheel and maybe motor) and fix the motor mount. No need for tires unless the ones on there are shot, and I’d keep the metal guide blocks… better than cool blocks and carter guides are a waste of money IMHO.

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Cheers,
Brad

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gfadvm

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#12 posted 04-05-2015 12:35 AM

That tilted motor looks easy to fix. Just shim up the ‘far’ edge with some washers until the pullys align properly. Check out your thrust bearing but I wouldn’t be in a hurry to upgrade from those guide blocks. They are easier to adjust and less apt to malfunction than the ball bearing ones.

IMHO, You made a very good buy!

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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#13 posted 04-05-2015 01:36 AM

It looks that the motor is way over tightened to its belt, adjust the tension and you should be good.
My “Old ” Grizzly is one of the best investments I have in my shop, so good for you, buying this gem.

-- Love thy neighbour as thyself

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weldoman

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#14 posted 04-05-2015 02:46 PM

Okay, spent some time checking out the saw last nite. The motor mounts were loose and had rubber grommets sandwiched between bolts and plate, two on 2 bolts ,1 on the other 2? Took the belt and blade off and spun lower wheel, thats where some noise is coming from. Found the nut holding on the lower wheel barely finger tight. Tightened the nut with a little loctite and installed the belt setup for fastest speed.Aligned pulleys and bolted motor directly to plate, no rubber. Reinstalled the blade and fired it up, sounds good, the noise is gone. Motor shaft and lower wheel had no play after tightening the nut.

Still has some vibration but its just sitting on my concrete floor, I think I made some progress.

-- missouri, dave

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#15 posted 04-06-2015 03:58 AM

set it on some strips of 3/4” ply where the feet would go cuts down the vibration and noise.

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