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03-25-2015 02:48 AM

I am looking at the DeWalt 735 bench top planer for my small shop as it is in my budget and I already have a 6” jointer and some hand planes.

I have read that the 735 is a decent choice but that the blades are indexed and considered disposable.

I’m thinking maybe something that has blades I can sharpen and that has some adjustment to allow for sharpened blades. I’m not sure if there is anything in my budget that is a better idea from the standpoint of being able to sharpen the blades and use them longer without tossing them?

I’ve also read that the knives on the 735 will wear down fast but this seems to be a common issue to planers and not just the DeWalt? Is there a style of knife that will last longer?

If I didn’t already have the jointer I would consider a jointer/planer combo setup and I may eventually go that route but I think it’s out of my budget right now.

I’m not apposed to a nice used higher end unit but I honestly don’t know what is quality and what is junk beyomd finding reviews.

Thank you so much.

-- Mike


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#1 posted 03-25-2015 03:06 AM

There sure are a lot of DW735 threads here and on other forums!

I have one, and still have the original knives, and never sharpened. Frankly, I do not think it is worth it, unless you are well skilled at sharpening. I think mine have lasted so long because I take very little off per pass, and do multiple passes on practically everything I plane. The cutters are not that expensive. I will just buy a new set when the time comes.

The cut is so smooth I’ve not been tempted to upgrade it to a carbide cutter head. The DW735 is one of the most popular benchtop planers —reasonably priced for its capabilities.

I have a 6” jointer. There are times it when a larger 8” jointer would be nice.

-- Lee

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#2 posted 03-25-2015 03:07 AM

The blades for the DW735 can be resharpened to an extent – deep nicks say 1/16” no, but just “wear” yes. I planed ~500-600 board feet of red oak before needing to sharpen the 1st time. I take light cuts (not more than 1/16”, usually 1/32”). There is a design on LJ’s for a sharpening jig – I have made it and it works. It is somewhat modeled after the Duelen jig. The 735 has worked well for me.

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#3 posted 03-25-2015 03:11 AM

I have the Dewalt 735 planer and I couldn’t be happier with its performance. If you decide to go with the 735 I would suggest that when its time to replace the knives that you consider going with the carbide offering from Infinity Cutting Tools. They last 10 times longer than the OEM knives and they can be sharpened at-least once. They are expensive upfront but pay for themselves and the cut is fantastic.

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#4 posted 03-25-2015 03:23 AM

Thanks for the responses so far!

I did see the carbide blades and am not beyond getting them but I am just I guess a bit disappointed there is no blade adjustment and, as such, little room for sharpening the blades.

It does make blade replacement quick and easy but does limit how much a blade can be sharpened and re-used.

Would the carbide tipped blades work better for pine with some small knots or would knots likely damage the carbide blades as well?

I really like how my jointer head works as I can slide the blades to eliminate notches and I can take them off and sharpen them to get a new edge as there is adjustment to the cutter head knives.

I wonder if there is an “upgraded” cutter head for the 735 or are you 100% stuck with indexed blades?

-- Mike

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#5 posted 03-25-2015 04:15 AM



Thanks for the responses so far!

I did see the carbide blades and am not beyond getting them but I am just I guess a bit disappointed there is no blade adjustment and, as such, little room for sharpening the blades.

It does make blade replacement quick and easy but does limit how much a blade can be sharpened and re-used.

Would the carbide tipped blades work better for pine with some small knots or would knots likely damage the carbide blades as well?

I really like how my jointer head works as I can slide the blades to eliminate notches and I can take them off and sharpen them to get a new edge as there is adjustment to the cutter head knives.

I wonder if there is an “upgraded” cutter head for the 735 or are you 100% stuck with indexed blades?

- MikeDVB

You could buy one of the spiral cutting heads and forget about replacing the cutters for a long time. I put one on my jet 6 inch jointer. Happy, I am. I got mine from Grizzly.

-- Handcrafted by Mike Henderson - Channelview, Texas

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#6 posted 03-25-2015 04:35 AM

great planer. I love indexed blades. Pop em in and go. I’m a cheap bastard but it’s worth my time not having to setting knives.

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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#7 posted 03-25-2015 04:36 AM

For a small shop, a combo planer/jointer works quite nicely and saves a considerable amount of space. The Jet 8” can be bought new for less than the Dewalt 735 (around $400), and the 10” one is about the same price (around $500). While you sacrifice a bit on the planer side, you do get a jointer as part of the deal and is considerably less than buying two machines. The 12” models are significantly more expensive, but I’ve seen used ones going pretty cheap. There are also several other brands you can find used for very reasonable prices (Hitachi and Makita come to mind). The later are nice because they use separate heads for the planer and jointer so there is no ‘conversion’ time needed to switch between functions.

Cheers,
Brad

Edit: Whoops.. just re-read your original post and see you already have a jointer.. never mind :)

-- Brad in FL - To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid

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#8 posted 03-25-2015 04:37 AM

I also have the 735 with infinitys carbide tipped blades,I have Sharpend the blades at least 4 times,
The first time I sent them to a local service,big mistake the ground them wavy.So that’s why I lerned to do them myself.
I do remember reading about a different vender selling the carbide tip blades, a bit cheaper then infinity.I just haven’t needed them.My set has been in the machine for at least 4 years.Aj

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#9 posted 03-25-2015 04:37 AM

I’m happy with the jointer. It’s the planer with indexed blades that cannot be adjusted that is concerning me. I’m not sure if there are comparable/better planers with adjustable knives or if that is uncommon.

I will probably eventually get a spiral head for the jointer if I don’t just upgrade to a larger jointer-planer combo unit.

I can live with the throw-away blades but I have what I need to sharpen and maintain the blades so being able to do so would be ideal. I’m not super concerned with blade changes taking a little longer as I’m not running a production commercial shop.

-- Mike

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#10 posted 03-25-2015 04:41 AM

@MrUnix – I’m still open to a combo setup. The jointer is fairly new and I could probably get most of my money back out of it if I wanted to.

Being able to joint wider boards would be awesome but the largest issue I found with bigger units was just the overall size/footprint but admittedly it is far better than two separate units.

In hindsight I probably should have gotten a combo unit to start but honestly didn’t know they existed when I got the jointer.

The jointer I have now is a Grizzly 6”x46”.

-- Mike

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#11 posted 03-25-2015 05:10 AM

It looks like I can get a set of the carbide tipped blades or I could spend $$$ and get a Shelix spiral carbide blade for it which should conceivably last an extremely long time and have the ability to turn carbide blades 3 times for new edges before replacing should they become nicked…

It is a lot of money to drop but it looks like every planer/jointer with a good spiral head is $300~800 more than the non-spiral version from my brief research.

I’m thinking investing that extra $$$ above the cost of the DW735 towards an overall larger/better unit may be a good idea. I would like something with a spiral cutter but I can live with carbide tipped blades I can sharpen numerous times.

-- Mike

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#12 posted 03-25-2015 05:13 AM

To my knowledge, most, if not all, 13” benchtop planers like the 734/735, delta lunchbox, rigid lunchbox and other lunchbox planers use indexed knives. Unless it is really old or of the cast iron bodied variety (think 15”), I think finding a bench top planer with adjustable knives is a tall order.
If you’re getting the 735, and are looking to get better knives, your choices are carbide tipped, solid carbide (a waste imo) or a spiral cutter head. I really doubt there is a cutter head for adjustable knives.
Now that I say this, someone will probably post a link to contradict me. Which will be good as I will learn something new.

-- I'm not clumsy.. It's just the floor hates me, the tables and chairs are bullies, the wall gets in the way AAANNNDDD table saws BITE my fingers!!!.. - Mike -

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#13 posted 03-25-2015 05:24 AM

The Shelix Spiral for the DW735 is $400 but if it saves me from buying 10 sets of blades it will have paid for itself. One reviewer tested and determined that the unit was 4 times louder with the stock cutter head than the Shelix – about a 6 dB difference.

Will the carbide do better with pine/knots? I know that they can still be damaged and can be rotated on the cutter head and replaced after that is no longer an option.

I do work with pine quite a bit and some of it does have tiny knots that seem to just want to nick the heck out of the jointer blades [but I can sharpen them so it doesn’t bother me so much]. Running it through a planer and having knicked blades that I can only turn around and cannot sharpen doesn’t sound ideal at $40/set.

I did look at taking the money it would cost to get the 735 + Shelix and to get a 13~15” planer with a spiral cutter is a fair bit more than the combination new. I could get a nice 15” planer with normal blades [adjustable, not indexed] for only a little more and upgrade it to a spiral later but it only gives me 2” more and would end up being more $$$ to go spiral but I would be offsetting the blade issue by being able to sharpen and adjust them.

So I guess it comes down to do I want a lunchbox planer with a spiral head for a little less than a non-lunchbox planer with non-spiral head but blades that I can sharpen. I assume the 15” will have other additional benefits over a ‘lunchbox’ planer?

-- Mike

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#14 posted 03-25-2015 06:36 AM

How many board feet do you plan on sending through the unit a month? If you are a casual hobbiest, grab a 735, and see how the stock blades perform for you. It’s not like you would go out and buy a 735, toss the new blades in the trash, and install a Helix Cutter from the get go. Then again, maybe you would.

As far as the knots, the less you take off per pass, the less chance you will encounter a problem?

IN PURE HUMMOR:
Maybe post an ad on CL that you can sharpen blades because you seem mildly obsessed with this :)

Cheers!

-- To Steal Ideas From One Person is Plagiarism; to Steal From Many is Research…

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MikeDVB

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#15 posted 03-25-2015 07:13 AM

I have long enjoyed sharpening knives and other blades so sharpening my irons for my planes and my knives for my planer/jointer seems like a natural extension of that experience.

I’d gladly put my skill at sharpening to use in saving on my trash output/waste [disposable blades] as much as possible but in this case it looks like the best option is a spiral carbide cutter.

The primary reason I am interested in the 735 is because I have a friend with one for sale fairly cheap. It runs fine but he is tired of replacing the blades for nicks – so I could get it used + the helical for about the cost of a new one.

-- Mike

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