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03-24-2015 02:02 PM

Topic tags/keywords: question dust collector

Hey all. I tried out my woodcraft dust collector trash can separator lid, and it didn’t do a darn thing. Hardly any dust in the can, lots of dust in the bag on the collector. I’ve heard of people having good luck with these…so what am I doing wrong?

I have lost the directions, so I’ve been playing around with the angle of the 90 inside the can, but that doesn’t seem to be helping. Any ideas?

Thanks,
Brian

-- Part of engineering is to know when to put your calculator down and pick up your tools.


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#1 posted 03-24-2015 02:03 PM

Some pictures might help us help you. How deep is the trash can?

This is what mine looks like.

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#2 posted 03-24-2015 02:06 PM

I believe the OP is referring to the Woodcraft brand separator:

-- "Man is the only animal which devours his own, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor." ~Thomas Jefferson

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#3 posted 03-24-2015 02:21 PM

Is the seal between the lid and trash can tight? If not that could be part of your problem.

I tried a couple off brand separator lids for buckets and neither of them worked well at all. The cyclone type work much better.

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#4 posted 03-24-2015 02:34 PM


I believe the OP is referring to the Woodcraft brand separator:

- CharlesA

Thanks for the photo. It explains a lot about why it does not work very well.

As you found out Charles, it does make a difference where the ports feed to and from, how deep, closeness to the wall of the container, where you draw from, how it is expelled into the trash can, etc. The Theine design seems to have had a lot of effort expended to get maximum performance.

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#5 posted 03-24-2015 02:39 PM

I have that same separator. I added the thien baffle like timber tailor has and it works great. I never tried it without the baffle. All you need is that lower piece of plywood and the separator dowels or all-thread. The only time I get anything in my bags is when I let the trash can get too full mainly while planing. Mine is on a 30gal metal trash can.

-- Bruce, Boise, ID

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#6 posted 03-24-2015 03:37 PM

I’m running a Fulton 4” separator kit ($15) on top of an old Craftsman 55 Gal vacuum drum. It’s running with a HF 2HP dust collector. Hardly a single chip gets into the dust collector bag. I’m extremely happy with the way it works!

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#7 posted 03-24-2015 04:13 PM

Thanks. Yes, I have the Woodcraft separator pictured above. It is on a metal 30gal trash can from Home Depot. I played with the blast gate today and pinching it off seemed to help some. There was definitely more in the can than there was yesterday. The real test will be next time I get the jointer and planer out. \

I wil have to check in to making one of those Thien baffles. Looks pretty simple. In the mean time, is there some magic to the orientation of the exit 90?

-Brian

-- Part of engineering is to know when to put your calculator down and pick up your tools.

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#8 posted 03-24-2015 05:35 PM

Maybe you have it hooked up backwards?

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#9 posted 03-24-2015 05:39 PM

that 90 should be on the inlet.

-- Bruce, Boise, ID

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#10 posted 03-24-2015 05:41 PM

Yup. That may help.

-- "Man is the only animal which devours his own, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor." ~Thomas Jefferson

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#11 posted 03-24-2015 09:35 PM

DOH! will change and report back.

-- Part of engineering is to know when to put your calculator down and pick up your tools.

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#12 posted 03-24-2015 10:15 PM

I have that separator and it works quite well. Haven’t had to empty the bag in quite some time. One caveat, remember to empty the barrel (DAMHIKT)

Big one

Little one

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#13 posted 03-24-2015 10:26 PM



that 90 should be on the inlet.

- johnstoneb

Yep. That was what I was going to ask if the vacuum was hooked on the wrong side. The vacuum needs to be hooked up to the connection without the 90 elbow. The air flow coming in the 90 creates the vortex.

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#14 posted 03-27-2015 06:45 AM

I tried it again, this time assembled correctly. There were definitely more chips in the can! Of course I was using my table saw and router table today, both of which have crappy dust collection. I Think I will empty the bag on the DC and check it out again next weekend when (hopefully) I am back to jointing and planing for the next part of the project.

-Brian

-- Part of engineering is to know when to put your calculator down and pick up your tools.

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#15 posted 03-27-2015 02:12 PM

I have the same trash can cyclone lid separator from Woodcraft and used it for awhile and was not totally happy with it. It did a fair job, but too much smaller particles make it through. I ended up buying the Super Dust Deputy which does 100% better, but the Dust Deputy cost 5X as much as the cyclone trash can lid.

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