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Hey Dan
On many subjects I think you are very informative and of course a great talented woodworker, but I respectfully disagree with you on this subject. With the economic climate as it is now charging for LJs services is not a good plan. Plus I feel it would slow the now booming memberships going on each day.

-- Jim from Heirloom Woodshop Southern Oregon

That’s why I’m asking for input … maybe making it a donation would be the way to go. There are over 138 donating lumberjocks.
It could be a donation drive !

-- work from your heart and your spirit will live forever

But would you seperate the products for sale from the regular site? As it stands anyone can see any project, and anyone can sign up.
What stops a buyer from signing in as a regular member and then contacting the woodworker, as opposed to signing up as a buyer?
Would the LJs who have stuff currently available then have to pay to sell the item, somewhat like etsy or ebay?
Would current members be required to pay fees?
Would there be a seperate project area for items for sale?
Would the items need to be catagorized or just random woodwork?

Personally I think it would be easier if Martin set the profiles up with the ability to change things like you can in Blogger, so that you can essentially make your profile your website. This way you can sell your products in a more professional manner, you don’t need to pay for your own website, etc. And you can use the website like it is intended for. Personally, I’ve been planning on following Mark’s example, and set up every project with a bunch of literature, links to where to purchase, etc.

Anyhow, using the site to sell things is a great idea, but I don’t think it can be kept free at that point. Which is a major benefit to people like me, who is trying to use it to get things going again.
I’m just a poor boy, from a poor family….............taliboo taliboo do the fan dango…

-- ~ Inspiring those who inspire me ~

What I’m describing is probably doable with Martin’s existing program structure, and hopefully for a programmer, not a whole lot of work. Editing and cut and paste… maybe I’m wrong, but that is how it works. Early in my background, I programed a few CMM’s in factories, and there are lots of variables and combination’s.

-- work from your heart and your spirit will live forever

Thanks for the tip, Dan.

-- Martin, http://lumberjocks.com | My Facebook: http://profile.to/msojka

If you turn this into another etsy/ebay it will horribly degrade the quality of the site. People are here now for the right reason… the love and passion of woodworking. If you turn it into another online store, people will flood it with a bunch of crap just to make a buck. The dollar has ruined so many aspects of our lives, please dont let it ruin LJ’s

just my 2 cents

-- James, Bluffton, IN

I agree with Hackman, I would not mind seeing another site for just that though. Don’t get me started on web sites though I am having enough trouble with the one I am trying to start now I wish I knew more HTML & PHP. Did you write all the code for this site Martin?

-- Sell it here> http://woodworkerslist.com

I agree with James and sandhill. This site is good for learning and sharing. If you want to sell there are plenty of other sites to do that.

-- Jerry--A man can never have enough tools or clamps

I’m not sure what the use of gallery is when you post a project. I’m assuming that I would/could put stuff in my gallery if I wanted to sale it or have sold it. Other projects are stuff that I might be making for home etc. I kind of like Mark DeCou’s way of doing business. post stuff on LJ’s and then have links to his etsy site. That way the financial stuff is not carried through Martin’s shopping cart. I kind of like LJ’s an open site for woodworking sharing and posting items that might be for sale, but the sales are being carried out someplace else.

-- What happens in the workshop stays in the workshop. No wait that doesn't sound right. Karson Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

I’m not going to get involved with this, mainly because I already have a web site, (nowhere near the traffic this site gets). There already seem to be many pros and cons. And I don’t mean to change the subject, but the one statement that I have a problem with:
”… maybe making it a donation would be the way to go. There are over 138 donating lumberjocks.” We have over 11,000 members, active or otherwise, and only 138 donors. That’s sad. I would think the information given out on this site in a day, would pay for several “How to” woodworking books.
We need a donation drive no matter how it happens.
That’s my $0.02 worth.

-- Tim -- http://tmuli.com