Spammer

I agree. This a—hole is really a PIA.

-- Jerry--A man can never have enough tools or clamps

Are you getting much spam? I think I’ve gotten 2 since I joined, both fairly recently, but I’m wondering if others are getting inundated with junk.

-- Gary, Los Angeles, video game animator

yes I am -

I’m not getting any by e-mail…............. my provider does a great job of deleting them before they get to me.

-- Jerry--A man can never have enough tools or clamps

64 spam blog posts in the last two hours?? anything to get rid of this guy

-- Fred, Springfield, Ma

must be some kind of ” club ” thing the kids do to be accepted ,
unfortunatly there may be some of that piggy back stuff in there to .

STARVE THEM OUT < DONT OPEN !

martin will solve this problem .

-- david ,new mexico ,allheart

Gary, I meant this fool who is posting all this crap on the LJ site. I don’t get any thru my email.

I agree David, don’t open it! Unfortunately, I doubt if that will stop him. Maybe he will get tired of the game on his own and go away.

yeah because all our posts get buried before anyone can read them. I say we all repost just to push him off the homepage

-- Woodshop supplies at bulk discounts. www.getneds.com

It is a royal PITA when that idiot posts so many junk posts in the blog area. I would hate to see things need to be approved but maybe there is a way to have a “trial period” for new members before they are able to post a blog without approval. I can’t believe the problem is caused by any long term LJ. Any way to revoke the membership of the fool?

Maybe we could have a safe sender list. After you’ve been a nice kind person then some of the slowdown requirements would disappear.

-- What happens in the workshop stays in the workshop. No wait that doesn't sound right. Karson Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

I agree with all of you =I think Martin should limit how many posts we post (perday) in any of the categorys = projects, blogs Etc. , I find it kind of thoughtless of others to post so many posts that it pushs others off the home page-s .
I think 2 or 3 (In each category) in a 24hour period would be great , I personaly like to spread them out anyway as courtesy to others!!

I don’t know how hard it would be for Martin to do this but if this Jerk keeps blogging us with His/her spam we could blow right past it and it wouldn’t push other Ljs out of the way.

-- Rj's Woodworks,San Jose & Weed Ca,

Much as I hate spam, I’m hoping it’s just an isolated incident, and not a sign of things to come that will require dramatic changes to site policy, like post limits, or white and black lists. Hopefully Martin will be up soon (isn’t it night over there right now?) and he can just ban that account, and the person won’t be interested in signing up again. Banned a few times and they’ll probably give up. At least, I hope so. The posts should be deleted, too.

My other thought is to create a league of Super LJs, headed by Karson along with a few others who can meet in emergency meetings at any hour of the day or night, and when all (3?) of their keys are inserted and turned at the same time, they’ll be granted the momentary power to purge one user, and all their posts and comments from the site. This is of course only to be used in our darkest hour. That hour may be upon us.

If we do get a post-per-day limit – as per Rj – I hope it’s no less than 3, and at least 5. I can’t always find time to post with work and projecst, but when I can, I’ll do a little spree of posts on things I’ve been saving up. If I don’t strike while the iron’s hot, I fall far behind. I want to be encouraged to do more so I can post more, and vice versa, not limited so I’ll say “Well, I can’t post anymore today anyway… maybe I’ll wait until tomorrow to finish this thing.” :)

-- Gary, Los Angeles, video game animator

Gary or anyone else ! All I’m saying is everybody who posts something wants it to be seen ! and out of courtesy to other LJS it would be nice not to be pushed out of the way by someone who wants to post 4-5 or more posts .
(because They don’t have time )...{:o)
I have PM others and they fully understood ! Its out of courtesy to others not just ourselves…
Gary think of it this way, say you just posted a couple of projects that you worked hard on and the next thing you know is you were bumped off the main page-s by couple or one (fellow) Ljs who just posted 5-or more each!
I have spoke with quite a few LJS and they feel the same way as I do .

-- Rj's Woodworks,San Jose & Weed Ca,

I think Martin may want to look into moderating new members posts. As in reviewing them before they are posted. Yahoo groups does that.

-- There is no such thing as a mistake. Its called a design modification Rick Kruse, Grand Rapids, MI

Just ignore it!!

-- My job is to give my kids things to discuss with their therapist....medic20447@gmail.com

How about an “Alert” or “Ignore” button that will 1) automatically alert Martin to consider deleting posting and member from L J’s; 2) The “Ignore” button will filter out this user from your viewing. I don’t know if a program for the “Ignore” button is available, but I think I’ve seen it before on another forum.

Personally a “DELETE INTRUDER” button with a trap door that goes to Nowherland is fine with me.

-- "They who dream by day are cognizant of many things which escape those who dream only by night." ~ Edgar Allan Poe

if there is a way to get rid of this guy..then i am for it..i dont like coming to one of my favorite web sites and see this garbage…..i support what ever will do that….grizzman

-- The Grizzone

I think there is a way to track this guys IP address and then block him from the site. That is of couse assuming he is using a static IP address.

Look at that…I just pulled “static IP address” out and I think I used it in the proper context. I must be becoming a computer nerd.

-- Chad from Chicago's North Shore

I posted this in the blogs too but maybe I can get more attention here…

There are a few things to do here. Most spamming operations are from China and a growing number are from India and the Phillipines. So you can ban those IP addresses. That might be going too far so other things you can do is to rel=”nofollow” all links on the whole site.
I just checked and lumberjocks is not doing this. But this would hurt the ranking of all the legitimate sites that lumberjocks links to. A more complicated solution would be to “nofollow” all links from unproven users. unproven can mean all users less than 6 months or a year old and with less than 50 posts or so.
Most spammers like this are only counting on a temporary boost in traffic so by the time Google catches on and penalizes or bans these sites, the spammers have already used it up.
The lumberjocks people can contact me, I’ll try to help them out for free. I love this site and want to keep it spam free.
This will only get worse. Once spammers find a place to post links, they’ll try to abuse it. They know it will only be a matter of time before they are booted off the site.
And it would be best to stay on top of deleting all those posts, it will only encourage them to keep posting.
I would doubt they are coming from static IP addresses. Most spammers are pretty sophisticated. They probably have a round-robin setup between different proxies (probably based in China) so their IP address alternates.
The verification image can work too.

Rj – I think I’m actually confusing the issue here. I don’t post multiple projects. I’ll make a few blog entries on my own personal blog, but only post a project when I’m fully completed with one. I think I only have a few of those total so far.

However, there’s another issue here. LumberJocks is growing at a steady pace. It’s unrealistic to hope people will post less and less as more woodworkers join up, just so everyone has the old fair shot at getting their project seen for as long a time as possible. I think it’s also not as beneficial to the site itself. Social media sites, like Flickr, facebook, LiveJournal, et al live and breathe through growth and activity. Right now the Pulse is like a busy neighborhood, but as the site grows, it’ll be more like downtown Tokyo eventually :) What happens in these situations is that things break into microcosms.

No one will ever keep up with it all, but people won’t really try, either. Just as you can’t meet everyone you pass on the street and get deeply involved with them, or have everyone who passes by become involved with you – even briefly – it simply becomes more about having a look through when you have time, and – just like meeting people in real life (friends of friends, and such) – you happen upon little treasures, like woodworkers, or projects you love, and you dive deeper into that, add them as friends, and become notified of their new stuff, and now you’re in a circle of friends amid a sea of woodworkers. You can grow this at your own pace, just as we’re doing now. I’ll probably add some more friends soon, and do especially if I find someone whose posts I love, but I’m already kind of maxed out on how much I can keep up with, so I tend to mostly just see notifications about posts from my buddies, then occasionally dive into the Pulse when I have a moment.

On the flip side, the more people there are, the more there are who will see your posts in the more brief time that they’re on the front page, so it somewhat balances out. Another important thing is relevant tags. It helps draw people to you when they search for things related to what you’re doing.

Anyway, I’m not really arguing with you. I agree that it would be great to have all eyes on my projects :) I just don’t think your wish is very realistic in a site that keeps getting bigger and bigger. Everyone’s channeling through that front page. It’ll only see faster and faster scrolling, and asking everyone to limit themselves more and more isn’t only unlikely, it’s stifling to the whole point of the site.

My 2 cents!

-- Gary, Los Angeles, video game animator

I have gotten maybe 3 spams in almost 2 years. I just shoot them over to martin.

-- Sell it here> http://woodworkerslist.com

Gray I never ment you over posted! I’ve never seen you post 4-5 posts (In one area) in one day you spred them out plus thier very informative information, I appreciate what you post .
Keep up the good work … {:o)

-- Rj's Woodworks,San Jose & Weed Ca,

RJ I think that you are confusing the issue a bit here, This is not about LJ’s that may make mulitable posts, its about some person(s) who have pbeen posting mulitable blogs consisting of just names and words, at least one of which contained virus(s). Martin is aware of this and has been removing then asap and is working on something to filter these type of people. This isn’t about taking up others space its about protecting our site for legitmate users including those people who just moniter us for awhile before joining and of course not discourageing advertizers.

-- RTB. "dumb animals are not stupid they simply can't talk "

Rj – I was actually thinking about our conversation when I woke up this morning, and the obvious occurred to me… I probably wouldn’t post more than 1 project in a day, because I don’t want to compete with myself for views and comments! :) I’d much prefer a day or two of conversation about the ins and outs of a project than quick, less-involved talk on multiple things I’d made. I’m reminded of other sites I’ve posted to, wherein I had many things to post about. I’ve actually written out multiple posts when I had time in a text editor and saved them to my desktop. Then as I’ve had less time the rest of the week, I’ve simply opened the next in line and posted it each following day.

So yeah, I’m probably not someone to worry about ;) Oh, and thanks for the kind words!

-- Gary, Los Angeles, video game animator