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Forum topic by Teaza posted 06-15-2009 10:12 PM 1325 views 0 times favorited 15 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Teaza

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06-15-2009 10:12 PM

Well my 1950’s series Crafstman 103 saw has served me pretty well but it is time to move on.

I am either going to purchase a brand new Bosch 4100 or quite possibly a nice used contractors or hybrid, depending of course on what is available.

The safety features of the newer saws really appeal to me and the 4100 seems to get the best reviews of the bunch all around.

Since I cant afford much more than $500 at this time, any suggestions would be welcome.

Thanks in advance.

-- Honey... I need to buy a tool to build you a present!


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Don K.

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#1 posted 06-15-2009 10:58 PM

If $500 is your range….I would look at a Ridgid….I had one for years and was a great saw…I just recently upgraded to a cabinet saw. There are some guys on here who have the new ridgid hybrid saw and say they are great.

-- Don S.E. OK

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#2 posted 06-16-2009 08:15 AM

The Bosch 4100 is well respected as a good portable jobsite saw, but if you don’t need to sling it from site to site, I think you’ll get more saw for your money with a full size saw with a belt drive induction motor.

Used is always a viable option if you can find the right deal….$400-$500 buys a very nice used saw.

The new Ridgid R4511 from HD, and the Delta 36-979/980 and Hitachi C10FL from Lowes are in the $500-$600 range new.

If you have 220v available, look into a nice 3hp cabinet saw. A new Grizzly G1023SL is on sale for $1075 in case you’re wondering what they start at new.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#3 posted 06-16-2009 01:09 PM

I paid $450 for my Ridgid R4511 when it was on sale at HD. It was $599 list. In this buyers market you should be able to bargain with the manager at a big box store like that. I have also seen a Hitachi hybrid on sale for awhile at my local Lowes.
The Ridgid I have seems to be a really nice saw for its size and class. I use it for mainly for ripping, and while I don’t have a lot of hours on it yet, I have not heard it change tone or labor through a cut on sheet goods or boards. Fence is nice and herc-u-lift is wonderful.

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rtb

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#4 posted 06-16-2009 04:38 PM

I have found nothing that my Rigid can’t do and do well, I doubt that I will ever replace it.

-- RTB. stray animals are just looking for love

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#5 posted 06-16-2009 04:44 PM

The Ridgid table saw I looked at has a super fence .

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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#6 posted 06-16-2009 07:53 PM

My rigid ts has seen about 5 years of daily abuse with no problems. It’s a great saw for the price, and in a whole different category of saw than the smaller bosch. I use the bosch saw when I am out on the job doing interior trim, and it’s alright, but if the saw will be used primarily in one location, get the rigid.

-- Julian, Park Forest, IL

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Teaza

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#7 posted 06-16-2009 09:00 PM

Thanks for the advice, the 4511 is a little out of range price-wise but the Model ZRTS3650 at $450 is doable. Anyone have this saw and can give some feedback on it?

I also have a line on an older Delta contractors saw which I can probably get for $100, as well as a jointer from the same guy who may take a package deal offer. That is enticing considering I could add on a nice aftermarket rip fence which I can later use for my cabinet saw when my shed is built.

bah… decisions decisions…

-- Honey... I need to buy a tool to build you a present!

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knotscott

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#8 posted 06-16-2009 10:29 PM

If that used Delta is a full size saw and is in nice shape, that’d be a $100 well spent. New Delta T2 fence for $150, new belt, new blade, maybe even a new miter gauge, and you’ll be golden and on budget!

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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Teaza

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#9 posted 06-17-2009 04:18 AM

I went and found out the Delta saw being sold is a model 34-670, which according to elsewhere on the web is a low-end contractors saw.

I read elsewhere that for $100 its a good deal, I am thinking of throwing the dice and grabbing it and taking Knotscott’s suggestion by adding a decent blade and Delta T2.

I guess in worst case I can sell it for what I paid for it.

-- Honey... I need to buy a tool to build you a present!

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knotscott

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#10 posted 06-17-2009 04:53 AM

Teaza – Unfortunately the model 34-670 isn’t really a standard full size contractor saw. It’s a direct drive compact saw that’s ~ 22”d x 38”w vs 25”d x 40”w with a belt driven induction motor….different beasts. It might still be worth $100 but it isn’t what I had orginally hoped.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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Teaza

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#11 posted 06-17-2009 05:16 AM

Knottscott – I just happened to come back from dredging up that same info. I guess its back to the drawing board, the T2 fence wont fit that old Delta unit and everything I read about it says it is really noisy…

Sigh…

Thanks for the reply, this purchase is giving me fits…

I decided to hunt down a Rigid 3650 after seeing so much positive on it, and cant find that saw without paying a ton for shipping. LOL… this is rather absurd.

-- Honey... I need to buy a tool to build you a present!

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knotscott

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#12 posted 06-17-2009 01:11 PM

Teaza – If you can find a nice older Emerson made Craftsman saw, you’ll be starting out with essentially the same guts as the 3650 (Emerson owns Ridgid). There are tons of them around, often cheap. Look for a model number that starts with a 113.298### (until 1997) that’s 27” deep with a belt drive induction motor out the back…the TTI/Ryobi made Craftsman saws are pretty much the same thing (1997-2004)....IIRC, model # 315.######. Then, as needed, you can add a nice fence, blade, miter gauge, etc….

It might be hard to find a new 3650/3660, but maybe someone bought one b/c it was cheap but has decided not to keep it. Check the free classifieds on these wwing forums for a saw previously owned by an avid wwer…they’re usually well cared for and tuned. Check Craigslist too…there looked to be some decent saws in the Ashville area…Grizzly G0478 hybrid saw, Jet, Delta, Craftsman…good luck!

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#13 posted 06-17-2009 03:32 PM

There’s plenty of the 3660’s that pop up on craigslist around here in the Chicagoland area. Just keep watching, and something in your price range is bound to come along. There’s deals out there for those who wait.

-- Julian, Park Forest, IL

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Teaza

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#14 posted 06-17-2009 09:10 PM

I ended up at Home Depot today and walked away with a brand new Rigid 2410LS. My wife talked some sense into me and sold me on the portability. I am stuck working on my 10×30 deck for now, until I can get a track-hoe in and remove a huge bank where my shed will be. So being able to take the machine in out of the weather is a good thing.

I am already impressed with the new machine it is exceptionally well built.

$530 out the door after tax. Not bad at all.

-- Honey... I need to buy a tool to build you a present!

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Don K.

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#15 posted 06-17-2009 09:55 PM

Congrats on the new saw…..I just sold my old T 2424 Ridgid…it was a GREAT saw that gave me many years of good service….And I loved the lift system….very well thought out and made.

-- Don S.E. OK

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