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Forum topic by Rob posted 03-15-2015 05:46 PM 862 views 0 times favorited 9 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Rob

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03-15-2015 05:46 PM

I’ve decided I am going to buy a new band saw and I’ve researched many of the top brands. Obviously features and money are the two biggest factors in my decision.

I decided on buying from Grizzly because you get just as many features at a lower price point than the other brands. I also have a Grizzly 15” planer, dust collector and table saw and they have all been great machines so that influenced my decision as well. The decision became easier when I read a lot of positive reviews about the Grizzly Band Saws.

I’ve narrowed it down to the G0513X2, the G0513X2F, the G0513X2B and the G0513X2BF 17” models. I’ve chosen these models because of the cast iron trunnions, and larger table. I will be using the saw for a variety of things. Re-sawing large boards and to a lesser extent some logs. I will also be cutting curves on table legs, band saw boxes etc. So I’m choosing a saw that will do everything I’ll ever need it to do. Please don’t comment on other brand saws. I know everyone has their favorite and I’m sure other brand saws are wonderful machine but for me it will be a Grizzly Band Saw. I also know about the junk blade that ships with it and I will be buying good blades for it so no need to comment on blades. When that time comes, I’ll post a new thread on blade choices if I need to.

But I do need some help understanding the brakes that come on the X2B, X2F and X2BF. If I understand things correctly, the X2 has no brake and will take a while to spin down. The X2F has a foot pedal brake but it’s manual so it’s use would be to stop the spinning of the wheels after it’s shut off by the switch in about 3 seconds. The X2B has no foot brake but does have a motor brake so the wheels stop spinning in about 3 seconds when the machine is shut off. The X2BF has both a motor brake and foot brake so when shut off by the switch it will stop spinning in about 3 seconds or you can apply the foot brake and accomplish the same thing. Meaning if you use the foot brake on the X2BF it shuts the machine off and stops the wheels from spinning. Is that correct?

I sent an email to Grizzly customer support a couple of days ago asking some initial questions but received an automated reply stating they are experiencing higher than normal email volume so it will be a few days for a reply so I figured I would ask here because I know the members here are knowledgeable and helpful.

Thanks! Rob


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WoodNSawdust

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#1 posted 03-15-2015 06:06 PM

I have the G0513X2BF for 2 1/2 years. In my opinion the foot break is useless. The motor break is useful. The peddle on the foot break is too high and I have to hunt for it with my foot while keeping my eyes on the wood. On mine the foot break activates a switch which stops the machine.

Additionally, I have had to replace both tires, the upper thrust bearing, and now I see that all four of the upper side bearings are stiff and almost will not turn. Everything failed right after the year warranty expired. I have only about 25 hours on the machine, so it should not be too much wear.

I hope this is just my saw and the product line in general. I still like the Grizzly product line, and this saw I hope there won’t be anymore replacement parts needed for a very long time.

The blade that comes with it is good for wall decoration, I buy TimberWolf blades.

Unless things have changed you will have to provide your own power cord and plug.

If you plan on putting the saw on a mobile base (HTC in my case) know that the height of the support bars on the base will keep the bottom door from opening. Plan on adding a 3/4” thick plywood spacer to raise the saw up.

I hope this helps.

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#2 posted 03-15-2015 06:15 PM


Additionally, I have had to replace both tires, the upper thrust bearing, and now I see that all four of the upper side bearings are stiff and almost will not turn. Everything failed right after the year warranty expired. I have only about 25 hours on the machine, so it should not be too much wear.
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I hope this is just my saw and the product line in general. I still like the Grizzly product line, and this saw I hope there won t be anymore replacement parts needed for a very long time.

I doubt Grizzly would give you much love on those as they are considered consumables. and as such, generally not covered by the warranty. They will need to be replaced as needed, and that is true for any band saw, not just the Griz. It’s also usually a good idea to get a few extra bearings to have on hand when you do replace them (and don’t get them from the manufacturer unless you like paying three times what they cost anywhere else).

Cheers,
Brad

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ElChe

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#3 posted 03-15-2015 09:40 PM

Get the motor brake. Mine takes SO long to spin down. Other than that I’m pleased with my Grizzly. Oh I did get a Lenox kerfmaster 5/8” resaw blade. Sweet. Agree the stock blade is worthless but I put it on if I’m cutting iffy wood.

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#4 posted 03-16-2015 02:17 AM

I’ve been looking at the Grizzly Band Saws. This thread is helpful – thanks.

-- Mike

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Kean

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#5 posted 03-16-2015 02:57 AM

I’ve no experience with the bigger ones with brakes, but I have a Grizzly G0555 14” saw with the 6” riser block that I bought when the the 555 line first came out and I love it. It’s stable, accurate and dependable. Grizzly even sent me, unasked, a new blade guard when they redesigned it a few months after I purchased it. I own Jet, Delta, Dewalt, Rigid and Grizzly tools and the Grizzlies are my favorites. You probably can’t got wrong with any of the 17” models.

-- Kean - It's all fun and games until someone loses an eye.

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Rob

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#6 posted 03-19-2015 01:15 AM

The X2BF has both a motor brake and foot brake so when shut off by the switch it will stop spinning in about 3 seconds or you can apply the foot brake and accomplish the same thing. Meaning if you use the foot brake on the X2BF it shuts the machine off and stops the wheels from spinning. Is that correct?

Yes, I think this is correct. I did a lot of digging about a year ago and my understanding is that the X2BF’s foot brake shuts off the saw and engages the motor brake, just like the off switch. Also, in the parts diagrams for the G0513X2F and G0513X2BF on Grizzly’s website, you can see the brake shoes and related parts, so it seems you could engage both the motor brake and manual brake on the BF.

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Ocelot

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#7 posted 03-19-2015 07:01 PM

I have the X2. It does take a looong time to stop. I found that if you order the griz mobile base, and mount it the right way ‘round, you don’t have to put a panel under it to open the lower door. I did take a few minutes to figure which way to do it. It was a while ago, so I can’t recall the details. I think I ordered the larger base which is only a few $ more than the one that just fits.

The upper door on mine has the hinges welded on not quite right – which is a nuisance when I open it. You have to lift the door a little as you open. The lower guides on mine bave to be adjusted almost all the way over to one side. I think this was also a manufacturing glitch, so you should check all those things when you get it. Griz will make it right if it’s not right when you receive it.

-Paul

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ADHDan

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#8 posted 03-19-2015 07:22 PM

I know this doesn’t directly answer your question, but if you want to be able to activate a good brake with your foot (and the Grizzly foot brake isn’t good) you could get a saw with a motor break and use a foot pedal switch to toggle the power.

-- Dan in Minneapolis, woodworking since 11/11.

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Rob

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#9 posted 03-19-2015 08:50 PM

Thanks for the help everyone. I originally was thinking about the G0513ANV, mostly because of the cost but since I am upgrading, I might as well get the saw I really would like within what I have to spend. I’ve never had a foot brake, so I wouldn’t miss it but since the price for the G0513X2BF is only $25 more than the G0513X2B why wouldn’t I get it? If the price was a difference of $200 I probably wouldn’t bother but the difference in price is so negligible, there’s really no reason not to get it. I just have to talk my wife into spending an additional $574 ($475 + $99 Shipping).

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