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Forum topic by 84Lumber posted 03-13-2015 06:25 PM 1357 views 0 times favorited 19 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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84Lumber

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03-13-2015 06:25 PM

I’ve been looking into upgrading my lunchbox planer and found a really nice condition G0453PX 15” Grizzly Spiral head planer on craigslist for $1500. Looks to have low usage. If I bought this new, I would pay over 2k after tax and shipping. Is it worth checking out this planer and buying it without a warranty? If so, what should I check over? They are firm on the price.


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Fred Hargis

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#1 posted 03-13-2015 06:32 PM

Warranty is hard to gauge. I hardly ever worry about it, but I would still want a deeper discount on the used one. As for what to check, on one that new it would have had to been beat to have any problems, these things are built really sturdy. Even so, there should be a 2 speed gear box, and everyone I’ve seen you change gears while the machine is running, but some folks don’t and damage the gearbox. So check the speeds (run a board through at each speed) and you might want to ask if the inserts have been rotated. Wish you the best with your decision.

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pintodeluxe

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#2 posted 03-13-2015 07:13 PM

If it is local, and you can test the machine to check the surface quality… go for it. An added benefit is there is nothing to assemble or de-grease!

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

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DrDirt

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#3 posted 03-13-2015 07:13 PM

I would look at how it is doing.

The tools in general (regardless of maker) are pretty standard and durable.

Seems the Majority of the time there may be a bad motor or switch…. that fails in the first month or less, or something wrong in assembly that shows up IMMEDIATELY

I would expect all the “waranteed” bugs have been dealt with already, such that anything that happens now wouldn’t be covered even if you were the first owner.

So look at condition, and run a board throug it…. see if it has excess snipe, or the out feed rollers leave marks on the finished cut etc.

-- 'Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners' ~George Carlin

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bonesbr549

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#4 posted 03-13-2015 07:16 PM

1500 seems to be a starting point. If its 2k new, then 1000-1200. Now if its in premo shaped maybe more.

-- Sooner or later Liberals run out of other people's money.

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SirIrb

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#5 posted 03-13-2015 07:55 PM

I agree with Bonesbr549
Adapt this attitude when looking at it.
[Tilts head a bit in skepticism] “Hummm, this old thing. I dooooont know. Was this built in the war effort? Yeah, like WWII. 1500 seems a bit steep. Whats the best you can do?”

[Says a number, likely 1400, now subtract 20%]

You should be able to get it for 1200 or 1300. Just a gut feel. Make sure to bring up that a new one isnt that much more. And find any and all flaws in it you can. And the big one, make sure you can walk away. Thats a hard one for me. But if you can walk away and tell him to call you when he is ready to deal then you may get what you want.

Psych yourself up by watching Pawn Stars.

-- Don't blame me, I voted for no one.

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Rob

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#6 posted 03-13-2015 09:04 PM

The sad reality is that none of us will ever get what we think our higher-quality tools are worth, and in the event of our untimely demise our families will be lucky to get half what they’re worth.

I’ve seen a couple like-new in my area for $1400 and $1600 asking prices in the past year and they remained listed on Craigslist for several months. I was tempted to offer $1200 but I had just recently bought a used G0453 with straight knives so I opted to buy a Shelix cutterhead instead when Grizzly put them on sale toward the end of last year.

The others already gave good tips on what to check over.

Like pintodeluxe said, if you buy used you don’t need to clean off all the packing grease and the machine may already be pretty well calibrated.

If you feel uneasy dropping that much money on a used planer, you can always offer less and say that’s the best you can do. (In that case I wouldn’t even bring up the price of a new one, especially if his is in like-new condition.) If he stands firm, give him your name and number (maybe even suggest he write it on some masking tape somewhere on the planer so it can’t be misplaced), tell him you understand if he needs to get $1500 out of it, and let him know your offer still stands if he isn’t able to find a buyer in the next month or so. Then call him back after a few weeks to see if he’s sold it.

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84Lumber

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#7 posted 03-13-2015 10:33 PM

Thanks for the replies. I think I should check it out, but what about transporting it? They say buyer is responsible for moving. For a machine of this size, what would YOU do for transporting it? I have a truck, but I’m worried about loading/unloading.

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MrUnix

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#8 posted 03-13-2015 10:39 PM

Disassemble as much as you can and throw it in the truck. The hard part is getting it loaded… getting it out is a breeze. Take a friend with you if you don’t think the seller can assist.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid

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chug

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#9 posted 03-13-2015 10:57 PM

wow,2 guys to unload,it comes in at about 700 lbs.i have one, its the best thing sense sliced bread,paid 1798.00 delivered to my shop door,planned about 2000 bd ft of hardwood only,only turned the cutting heads after 1 year just to see any difference in the cut quality…none,buy the replacement knives from byrd,not grizzly, adjustments are necessary to get rid of snipes

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84Lumber

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#10 posted 03-14-2015 12:59 AM

Should I bring a straight edge to check table flatness?

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Rob

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#11 posted 03-14-2015 05:48 AM


Thanks for the replies. I think I should check it out, but what about transporting it? They say buyer is responsible for moving. For a machine of this size, what would YOU do for transporting it? I have a truck, but I m worried about loading/unloading.

- 84Lumber

I have an 8×4 utility trailer with a fold-down ramp, and it was a piece of cake loading my G0453 planer with a little help. I was able to unload it by myself. I left it upright, raised the bed, and ran some ratchet straps under the bed and around the 4 corner posts to tie it down.

I’ve often wished for a big truck, but the trailer has been so much more practical.

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Tennessee

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#12 posted 03-14-2015 11:17 AM

One of the big things I would look for, (other than a lower price), is how many times have the cutters been rotated. I would not believe if the owner said once, or even twice. I’d take off the top and look carefully. If they have been turned to the fourth edge, you are very near to spending a few hundred on new cutters. That one thing alone makes looking into a new one worth while.

Also, these planers tend to get gummed up on the infeed drag roller. See what kind of condition that roller is in. Take off the belt cover and see how much stray rubber dust is in the area. Lots of dust, they may not have been lubing the upper end, causing the belts to drag more. Does the chain area look lubed? (On the side where the two speed lever is). All these things make it worth less, and I bought mine about two years ago for $1595. Sounds to me like he is trying to get all his money back.

-- Paul, Tennessee, http://www.tsunamiguitars.com

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Fred Hargis

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#13 posted 03-14-2015 11:27 AM


Should I bring a straight edge to check table flatness?

- 84Lumber

Nope, there are rollers under the cutting head that support the stock, and a way to adjust them. The extensions can be off a little and not effect planing performance. The easiest way to move may be to get a small trailer and an engine hoist, assuming this thing isn’t in his basement. Lifting it into a pickup might not be possible with an engine hoist unless it’s a really tall one. If you choose to use a hoist it would be a good thing to have a few load slings (straps with loops at each end). I suppose you could get into some dis assembly to make it lighter, but that may take some time.

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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84Lumber

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#14 posted 03-14-2015 02:55 PM

I just got back from looking at the planer.

Wow, when they say things look different in person than they do in pictures, this is a perfect example. Used and abused is an understatement here. He was cutting down trees on his property and had a stack of wood in his garage up to the ceiling. Which is fine, but the machine looked to be neglected. It was coated in grease and sawdust, he probably didn’t do a great job at cleaning it up out of the box.

He ran a few passes through and I could clearly see deep indent marks from the rollers. He said it looked like a nice finish. I disagreed. I had him switch gears, and he didn’t even know what I was talking about. He said he never used the finish speed. There were also steps every few inches, maybe the cutter head was misaligned or some inserts were not indexed properly? He was on the second rotation on inserts. The belt housing was coated from bottom to top in dust. And there was paint chipping off the machine, with Grizzly decals also chipped off.

I didn’t even make an offer because I didn’t want it. It’s amazing what people price their used items at on craigslist. It seems like the days of getting a good deal, or even paying a fair price on craigslist are few and far between. My quest for a planer continues, and I might just have to get brand new, so I can take care of my equipment like it should be.

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MrUnix

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#15 posted 03-14-2015 02:59 PM

OWWM Rule No. 1: The seller, standing in front of the machine with access to all sides and in full daylight, will not/cannot describe the machine correctly.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid

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