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Forum topic by splatman posted 03-09-2015 05:31 PM 1037 views 0 times favorited 13 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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03-09-2015 05:31 PM

Topic tags/keywords: powermatic pm701 joining sharpening mortiser hollow chisels compatible mortise tenon question

Hi all,
I just ordered a Powermatic PM701 last night, and have a few Qs:
Does it come with any hollow chisels and bits (HC&B)? Is that what they are called? It looks like it does, but I just wish to be sure.
Is there a better sharpening option than the included sharpening cone?
What make/model HC&Bs work best with the PM701? I was going to order some from Lee Valley, but they said to double-check that they will work with your mortiser. Since I do not have mine yet, I do not know if they will fit, and so do not wish to buy something that might not fit it. Are HC&Bs sort of like oil/air filters (must get the ones that fit your car), or are they like ordinary drill bits (any bit smaller than 3/8” fits any 3/8” drill)?

Powermatic tools are on sale until tonight. I bought mine at Acme Tools. Free shipping, and no tax (for WA dwellers).


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#1 posted 03-09-2015 06:32 PM

I’ve got the floor model and the PM chisels are ok never had an issue. If you register your Birth day you will get a 10% off card and can get the whole chisel set at a discount.

As with any set, get a cone sharpening kit with the center pin to keep those points on sharp and it will be fine.

The one I got at the time was made in England, can’t remember the name.

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#2 posted 03-09-2015 06:58 PM

The gent at the local PM dealer said this model did not come with chisels etc.

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#3 posted 03-09-2015 07:15 PM



The gent at the local PM dealer said this model did not come with chisels etc.

- SirIrb

No they don’t considered an option, like a bumper on a pickup. Kinda funny really.

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#4 posted 03-09-2015 07:35 PM

Thats how they guarantee out of the box accuracy. Wait, thats Smith and Wesson. Same principal, a S&W doesnt come with rounds.

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#5 posted 03-09-2015 07:38 PM

I have tried the Jet, Lee Valley Economy, WoodRiver, and Woodstock brand chisels. I think I like the Jet/Powermatic bits the best, however I am not always willing to pay the price. Right now I am using the Woodstock bits. They are very cheap, and require some regrinding and resharpening to cut perfect mortises. Most bits won’t cut well out of the box.
Just make sure your machine’s collet size matches the bits you buy. I have a Delta benchtop that takes a 5/8” collet chisel, and a Jet floor model that will take 3/4” collet chisels as well.
Your machine takes bits with a 3/4” shaft.

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#6 posted 03-09-2015 07:46 PM

Amazon says that model does not come with any chisels. It also says that the chisel shanks for that machine should be 3/4” as opposed to the more common 5/8”. My delta takes the 5/8” ones, but when I bought it the guy also gave me several chisels that did not fit. They are 3/4”. I’d love to send them to you if you want, for shipping cost. I would say that the most important for you is to make sure you purchase the ones that are 3/4”.

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#7 posted 03-10-2015 03:50 AM

Hey, Bill,
I’ll take your 3-4” bits.
Message on the way.

Edit: Sent message.

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#8 posted 03-10-2015 03:59 AM

IMHO the very best hollow mortise chisels are made by Forest—it’s owned by the same gentleman that owns Whiteside router bits. Next would be the premium chisels sold by Lee Valley. Good luck and enjoy.

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#9 posted 03-10-2015 04:48 AM

Clico bit/chisels are works of art but you will need a second mortgage. I own one a 3/8” bit as I use 3/4” thickness boards most of the time. My other bits are the Powermatic bits. They are decent but nowhere near the quality of the Clico bits.

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#10 posted 03-12-2015 08:04 PM

Hey Splatman. Here’s what I have. Two 1/4” chisels and bits. Both brand new.

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#11 posted 03-13-2015 06:52 AM

Hmmm. I would have said the 3/4” shank chisels are standard size, not the 5/8”.

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#12 posted 03-13-2015 12:31 PM

Maybe you’re right, but mor people I’ve talked to have the 5/8”. I’ve been trying to find someone to take these.

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#13 posted 03-14-2015 04:32 AM

I have this mortiser. It does not come with chisels. I bought the PM chisels when I bought it just about 3 years ago. I’ve never used the sharpener it came with. I bought the Rockler sharpener set and it works well.

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