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#1 posted 03-09-2015 01:42 PM

This is the guy that offers $5 for a $150 hand plane. LET HIM SIT ON HIS VINTAGE TOOLS !

-- "My mission in life - make everyone smile !"

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#2 posted 03-09-2015 03:46 PM

Chips I don’t get it. The guy is selling a box of tools for $100. Unless there isn’t much in the box it’s probably worth it. Sounds like a fun swap and raffle event too. Not a bad idea by the seller. 100 boxes at $100 means he gets $10k to clear out his stuff.

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#3 posted 03-10-2015 12:50 PM

Offer him $5 per box, see HOW HE FEELS !!!!!!!

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#4 posted 03-12-2015 05:35 AM

Ron I’ve seen what he’s got and talked to him. He ain’t taking no five buck offers it’s 1oo bucks plain and simple. his rules is posted for all to seel

he wants to purge and he’s bound and determined to do it. What’s a ticket to the hockey game worth? My buddy stuart (tool exchange AU) did a smomewhat simaliar purge a few years back and then he’s back in the game bigger and better . Is there a lesson there?

A hunnerd bucks for a box of tools worth more than that gets you a 1 in a hunnerd chance to win a toolbox full of tools apparently worth 2k$. better than the lottery…..

But you know better than I.

I’ll be there to enjoy the entertainment, and perhaps partiicipate Methinks you’ll pass

Eric

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#5 posted 03-19-2015 02:36 PM

The reason I am PISSED at this guy. I answered add in Kijiji. I drove 4 hours one way to let him look at what I had.
I had ”In retail market” $40,000 worth of old tools.
He can sell his stuff at retail price, I am to give my old things away ?
He gave me story about no market and he has lots and he would pay me $1000 TOPS.
400 pieces for $1000 was the biggest insult I got that weekend.
I had 25 boxes in trailer, I delivered to him, unloaded and RELOADED. Thankyou and Good buy !
How many people has he conned into giving HIM their stuff ?

-- "My mission in life - make everyone smile !"

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#6 posted 03-19-2015 02:39 PM

brutal

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#7 posted 03-19-2015 06:29 PM

There’s a lesson in here somewhere.

Oh, yeah. Treat folks the way you want to be treated!

-Paul

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#8 posted 03-19-2015 06:33 PM



There s a lesson in here somewhere.

Oh, yeah. Treat folks the way you want to be treated!

-Paul

- Ocelot


Some people do that and they apparently don’t want to be treated very good. :)

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#9 posted 03-26-2015 05:30 AM

Me I know the guy, and he’s been burned before to besure by folks telling him and sending pix of what they had and when he got there money in hand, all the good stuffhe and they had agreed to buy and sell was gone.Totally burned, out time and money,just like chips complains of. Such is life.

.Perhaps CDN chips stopped along the way, perhaps in Airdrie with his trailer full of tools, but I’m just guessing. The real oldtool collector world is quite small afterall. I’m sure that if he sold some along the way he would have said so.

Old tool prices just ain’t what they used to be. At the LV oldtools event, I had a stanley 55 on a rotating stand in my windshield with a 200$ price tag on it. Nary a call. In 1980, that was a 900$ touch.

Over the years I’ve seen fellas at antique shows trying to get twice what they paid on ebay, but I’ve also seen big name east coast dealers selling tools at 30-50% of “book value” at east coast markets. If you haven’t been exposed to that, it’s all to easy to say this #4 is worth 100 bucks book value, but you’d be wrong .

Speaking of the LV tool event, which happened in Edmonton too, good user woodies at 5 bucks a pop hasn’t stopped the antique dealers getting 25 for worse fodder. Old tools is a “marketplace” and your in the game despite what yu think.ergo yer a “player” If you bought high and now have to sell low, I feel for you.

Sometimes we win sometimes we lose. Right now the odds are on the losing side except for high end items.

A local tool collector with a plethora of stanley planes recently sold off about 600 planes for 2000 bucks. that’s about 3.50 each. Buddy knew about it-it was just around the corner. At same price and Chip’s valuation of 40k, chips musta had 12000 planes. Just sayin….., dunno what he had.

40#1 Stanleys could easily make that price, and so could 350 or 400 # 4’s, but who needs or wants a plethora of common goods. The marketplace once again.(as far as I know he ain’t got any #1’s in the boxes. He keeps wanting to get mine…..and it ain’t fer sale.

Despite how PISSED OFF some folks might be, when it happens, the sale is gonna be one of a kind to be sure.

I’ll be there

Eric in Calgary

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#10 posted 04-13-2015 05:34 AM

Canadian chips is quite quiet in this thread. I’ll just get on to other things….

So Ill give the report on the sale, and a llink to what I got.

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After a two week delay (due to family medical problems) it finally happened. Weather was nice/half assed warm til the aft…., and I tried to be there an hour and a half early, but nomophobia struck, and I had to turn around and get the cell phone, so I was a few minutes later than I thought. The whole show worked out more or less than buddy Chris had visualized worked out more than less as described.

You paid a huunerd bucks for a box of tools which were promised to be worth more than that, and some a lot more!. About 75 folks turned up from all over Alberta and Saskatchewan ( Both bigger than Texas, and probably England too Jeff, but still in the colonies) for the hunnerd boxes, bought em and then horse tradeing for a few hours hoping for door prizes and waiting for the big draw . A lot of folks got their box and hightaile it out of there, stupidly missing the horsetrading that went on for hours.

For me, I got my box, traded a saw and 40 bucks for a seigly combiination plane with blades , a 71 router for a #10, sold a record spokeshave for 20, so my net cost was 120 CDN$ (about 90 U$), the 11 was free, as it was basically a parts plane, but I didn’t have one so despite the big chip in the throat, what can you say.

One door prize was an pristine Ulmia jointer plane…worth over 300 bucks CDN (400$US) Talk about generousity and the will to divest!!! and then the big door p[rize!!! (alas didn’t win it)

Chris GAVE AWAY probably a kilo$ wiorth of tools in this scenario as door prizes for those whom trusted him and 99% of them went into users hands as per his wished to preclude the dealers.

It was an interesting time, a unique altruistic occasion for Calgary, and from what others have told me this dispersal method has not been ecountered elsewhere either.

I’m glad I went, Everyone I talked to was more than happy about their box. One fella bought 6 boxes and then wheeled and dealed

There was lots of tool talk. Host Chris, Laurence, Chris, myself and others helped newbies with their dickering (Is an original scorp worth a straight across long drawknife and a new japanese water stone?), met some new oldtool folks, and generally had a good timetrade for. It was kinda fun showing folks what an auger bit depth stop was and how it worked, and showing folks that some of the catalogues in their box(yep Catalogues…Jeff….not catalogs) would show them about old tools.

I had a lot of fun showing folks how plebeian appearing rafter squares sometimes had the 10ths/12ths etc, and showing them the little scale in the corner with the hunnerd inch scale, and pointing them toward the various tomes on using squares…Hodgson etc. Oh there are still a lot of newbies sitting on the precipice of the slippery slope.

Some lucky fella walked off with an early Lie Nielson 140 NIB without so much as a hurrah or a mention ( Lie Nielson rep figured it was a 400$ touch,) and some other SOB apparently stole a NIB 45 perhaps out of ignorance of rules….who knows. Interesting times we live in! Beware the belligerent old tool collector methinks!

The few photos I took are on flickr at
https://www.flickr.com/photos/130130509@N05/16506831334/

I wish I’d been able to snap a photo of the Calgary Police Service driving by. They didn’t even stop….

A bunch of unsold and ungivenaway old tools (squares/levels/etc) were apparently donated to a Tools overseas programme operated by KMS tools, on of our western Canadian tool stores. I tossed a few in the bucket

At 2 pm, he started floggin the unsold boxes.one by one. There was a timberframing box that got sold with a good condition two man saw, a grantors axe and pole climbing cleats and misc other timber framing tools, another box with a NIB #7along with a plethora of other tools for yep, hunnerd bucks.

Good fun for me. and methinks for all other participant who stuck around.. and shared the knowledge , camaraderie and fun. That is priceless

It wasn’t a hunnerd acres of tools like some of the back east tools sales, just a bunch of galoots who don’t know that they are yet.

The tool god shined on a lot of folks in the CDN prairie this weekend, whether they knew it or not….

. Chris got his life back (selling old tools ain’t exactly without it’s pitfalls in time consumption costs of fraud/theft etc..,and family safetyt!)) and he ain’t inviting three or five strangers into his home every week with his wife and three kids, and I believe he will eventually get back into it, balance and safety in his life will be restored for the time being, and his kids get their play room back.

Win all around me figures.Like I said, no one I talked to was dissatisfied, and you know what. I didn’t see any dogmeat #4 planes anywhere.

There is another fella round Cowtown here that wants 40 bucks for a pit-rusted broken handle handyman /other off brand rusted and pitted #4 for 40 bucks. and believes they are worth that. Dogmeat planes at premium prices! I betcha that exists everywhere.

As if we ain’t seen that before. ..... just part of the oldtool world

That’s about all I have to say… been there and done that

Eric in Calgary
quite happy to have participated

-- Real_cowtown_eric

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#11 posted 04-13-2015 12:38 PM

Eric, thanks for the recap, sounds like it was definitely one for all time. I woulda been there too, but not for the 28 hour drive each way… And, congrats on the tool finds, I’ll check the pics out!

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#12 posted 04-13-2015 06:32 PM

Thanks for the recap, very interesting. I’m surprised you didn’t get any takers on the 55 for $200. It is interesting that some people have been saying old tool prices are going up, but you’ve got a few examples where they aren’t.

And what did you mean by this part:
“Over the years I’ve seen fellas at antique shows trying to get twice what they paid on ebay, but I’ve also seen big name east coast dealers selling tools at 30-50% of “book value” at east coast markets. If you haven’t been exposed to that, it’s all to easy to say this #4 is worth 100 bucks book value, but you’d be wrong.”

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