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ralmand

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06-04-2009 03:59 AM

Topic tags/keywords: table finish help desk project

As I have said, I am somewhat new to woodworking. I have done garage projects and outdoor projects, but I am ready to try my 1st indoor furniture piece. I want to build a hall table. I have the design in mind that I want to use, but I would like advice on the wood. I am on a budget. I have found some red oak and ash from some locals that I can get on the cheap. I plan on going to look at it in the next few days. When I complete the project, I want to finish it in a cherry color. Which wood species would suit me best for this? Also, any suggestions on finishing would be GREATLY appreciated. I am always afraid of messing up my projects with the finish. Thanks in advance for any suggestions

-- Randy, Allen Texas


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cpernisi

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#1 posted 06-04-2009 04:16 AM

you could always stop by Craig’s House of Fine Woodworking for some friendly advice. They have plenty of plans, semi-expert advice, and tools galore that no one was mastered. :)

do you want my mortise machine and tenon jig this weekend?? we can bring those both on Friday.

-- Craig

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#2 posted 06-04-2009 04:34 AM

Hey Randy
I would say that Maple looks the most like cherry when finished, but if that doesn’t work go with what you can afford. That’s experience does is help not be afraid of messing up . But how do you get experience ? you go for it and it you mess up you find ways a way to fix it or remake the part that was messed up. you can make a practice piece out of inexpensive wood even 2×4s just for practice. Then make the real piece. The Design you can search on line or look at retail outlets you like IKEA and make one of their designs work for you.

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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#3 posted 06-04-2009 07:58 AM

Of you wood choices I would go for the red oak. Red oak has a lot of open pores and you may want to fill them with a wood grain filler which takes some extra time but particularly on the top of the table it will produce a nice smooth finish. It may be hard to find in stores but most mail order catalogs seem to have it. It is like a paste you wipe on the fill the pores. Follow the instructions carefully or you may do a lot of extra sanding. Getting a good cherry color stain may take some experimenting with various stains or combination of stains (on scraps).
Both woods can have some bold grain if flat sawn so try to get quarter sawn pieces for the top to get a nice appearance.
I looked at your other posted projects and I’m sure you can do this one. I guess if you mess up and don’t like the results you can cut the legs shorter and use if for a bench (-:

-- Les B, Oregon

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NY_Rocking_Chairs

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#4 posted 06-04-2009 11:35 AM

Here is a web site that has posted pics of various woods using various MinWax stains. I am not advocating the use of Minwax, but this will give you an idea of the colors you can get using Oak, Maple, Cherry, etc…

Stain Comparison

-- Rich, anybody want a peanut?

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Joe Lyddon

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#5 posted 06-06-2009 08:43 PM

Poplar is a very good wood for Finishing to look like any other wood you almost want…
... TransTint to stain / match the color you wish… followed by top coats…

Shellac
Poly
Lacquer

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

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ralmand

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#6 posted 06-08-2009 03:57 AM

Thanks for your replies. I bought enough red oak to satisfy my project. I plan on building a table 20” deep by 48” wide with either 2 or 4 drawers. I am still going back and forth on this. It will be 36” high. I cut and glued up the boards for the top today. The best part is, I purchased the wood on craigslist for $40.00. It was leftover wood from a remodel project. It had a lot of mitre cuts and most of the salvageable part was only 2” wide (but some were 4” wide), but I should be able to complete my table with this $40.00 purchase and still have some left over. I am excited to be able to try an indoor project on a small budget

-- Randy, Allen Texas

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ralmand

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#7 posted 06-08-2009 04:05 AM

To cpernisi: MY SON IN LAW….I love your explanation ” semi-expert advice, and tools galore that no one was mastered”. You are GREATNESS. For those of you out there, we have a WONDERFUL skill, tools, whatever rivalry. I could not ask for a better son in law.

-- Randy, Allen Texas

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#8 posted 06-08-2009 06:14 AM

i dont know if you have a sprayer or access to one but as far as finish goes i spray all my projects. i use deft lacquer on everything. 2 coats sanding sealer thinned no more than 20%,2 coats high gloss for duribility, thinned no more than 20%, topped off with one coat which ever sheen you prefer. i sand in between each coats very lightly with 320 or 00 steel wool , . and then finishing sanding with 0000 steel wool then top it off with some liquid gold. makes a real durable, slick finish.

-- BlueMillWoodworking@gmail.com

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ralmand

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#9 posted 06-09-2009 03:10 AM

Ronnie…Thanks for the suggestion. I am going to try it. I have never used Deft, but went online and checked it out. Sounds good to me.

-- Randy, Allen Texas

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Joe Lyddon

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#10 posted 06-09-2009 03:17 AM

Ronnie…

”then top it off with some liquid gold. makes a real durable, slick finish”.

Where do you find Liquid Gold?

I used to use Deft way back when… I guess it’s still good!

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

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ralmand

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#11 posted 06-09-2009 03:24 AM

Here are some pictures of my progress. The top is glued up and the table legs are cut and tapered. The legs are 1.5” at the top. I went 16” down and then began the taper. It is tapered to 1’ at the bottom. They are tapered on 4 sides. I used my table saw and Incra Mitre 1000SE to make the tapers, along with a LOT of ‘thinking’ and asking “will this work?” Pictures posted on Photobucket:
http://s229.photobucket.com/albums/ee162/ralmand/Office%20Table/?albumview=slideshow

-- Randy, Allen Texas

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ralmand

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#12 posted 06-09-2009 03:26 AM

I know I can get Liquid Gold at my local Grocer…just never used DEFT…but I will try it

-- Randy, Allen Texas

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Joe Lyddon

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#13 posted 06-09-2009 03:33 AM

You’re kidding about the Liquid Gold… right?

Your slideshow is very nice… you’re getting there!

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

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ralmand

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#14 posted 06-09-2009 03:39 AM

Joe…I am not kidding. It is polish, restorer, whatever you wish to call it. It is similar to Olde English. Kroger sales it, as does my local Lowes. Thanks for the kind word about the slideshow. I am trying to get there. I have NEVER built a piece of furniture. I am doing this one to suit my need and space. I am designing as I go. Hope it turns out as I envision.

-- Randy, Allen Texas

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Joe Lyddon

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#15 posted 06-09-2009 05:36 AM

OK, so it’s in the wax family… will have to get some & try it! :)

Thank you!

On your table… just take you time and Dry Fit all the time to be sure you’re OK…

Do not RUSH it…

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

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