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05-30-2009 09:29 PM

Topic tags/keywords: propane torch patina hot patina humor question

Fellow Lumberjocks… I need help. I’m trying to learn the hot patina process on copper sheet and need to find a propane torch with a wide bell. While googling provides plenty of results for regular, bottled torches, I can’t seem to find much info on the wider bell. Except, it appears they make these for burning weeds, melting snow, and tarring roofs. I included a link to a picture below and the link to the DIY website is http://www.diynetwork.com/diy/ww_decorative_furnishings/article/0,2049,DIY_14441_3573858,00.html

David Marks Garden Gate Hot Patina Torch

Allow me some venting. My biggest gripe about computer software is they always tell you WHAT a particular program CAN do, but rarely tell you HOW to do it, and, moreover, never tell you the WHY. Oftentimes I find the same thing with HowTo shows. There is too little HowTo and hardly any WHY. This has led me to my basic rule of teaching. Never, and I mean NEVER, EVER, NOT ONCE EVER (get the picture) touch or reference a tool or material without identifying what it is and where it can be purchased. And the WHY of a thing is a real bonus.

To try to understand the patina process I bought a three CD set through Art Chemicals by Ron Young. There it was sitting in the background, a wide bell torch. I kept waiting and waiting for him to describe it. I waited all through the introduction where he went through all the safety gear, fine, and the brushing supplies, fine, and the chemicals, fine, and other stuff, fine, but all for naught. Then he reached for the torch. What joy! Now I would find out the brand, specs, and other info. Nope. Nada. Nothing.

Back when Amy Devers had a show on DIY she used a real fancy crosscut sled. For the life of me I could never figure out where the heck she got it. I finally found a forum where others were just as curious and the answer was Delta/Porter Cable/Biesmeyer had once made this sled but discontinued it after just a short run.

As a volleyball coach I once yelled at my players, “don’t ever not even think about not ever going for that ball!” Well the same thing applies here. “Don’t ever not even think about not ever using a tool or ingredient or material you don’t identify.” Yeah I know, double negatives all around. But they got the point.

So I need help. Yes you say, in more ways than one. Indeed.

-- tim hill www.newcalshop.com


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#1 posted 05-30-2009 09:41 PM

I remeber small torch kits used to come with soldering tips, wide bells, ect. Might check ebay for an old one.

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#2 posted 05-30-2009 09:47 PM

An opinion Tim….if it were me, I would contact those folks you bought the CD from.

-- Gary, DeKalb Texas only 4 miles from the mill

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#3 posted 05-30-2009 10:29 PM

Gary… good opinion. Here’s what I found so far. Ron Young is (maybe) not with Art Chemicals anymore and has his own website/company called Sculpt Nouveau. He has torch tips listed on his supplies link. I need more info so I sent him an email. In addition, I searched Bernzomatic and sent them an email as well. I had sent David Marks an email previously but did not hear back. He/they are generally pretty good about answering emails though.

I plan to do a blog on this project so maybe others will learn from my rookie experience. Thanks.

-- tim hill www.newcalshop.com

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#4 posted 05-30-2009 10:53 PM

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#5 posted 05-30-2009 11:21 PM

I’ll be watching for that blog.

-- Gary, DeKalb Texas only 4 miles from the mill

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#6 posted 05-31-2009 02:24 AM

Thanks everyone. Just shows, if you have a question ask the Lumberjocks. Just picked a self-lighting torch at Harbor Freight. Now I have to learn how much propane is used to heat a 2’x6’ copper panel. That and a bunch of other things to learn. And I’ll post it on a blog. Meanwhile if anyone has had any experience with metal patina’s please let me know.

-- tim hill www.newcalshop.com

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#7 posted 05-31-2009 02:46 AM

How About David Marks. you tube or his website

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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#8 posted 05-31-2009 05:25 AM

Anyone for roasting marshmellows??

-- Gary, DeKalb Texas only 4 miles from the mill

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