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Forum topic by LucasWoods posted 03-04-2015 02:39 PM 1211 views 0 times favorited 12 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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03-04-2015 02:39 PM

http://www.amazon.com/Stanley-16-791-Sweetheart-Series-Socket/dp/B004TK0IG8

Stanley 16-791’s and the stanley sweethearts you get form LV?

-- Colorado Springs, CO


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#1 posted 03-04-2015 03:23 PM

No difference in the tools, just the price difference.

-- "Good judgement is the result of experience. A lot of experience is the result of poor judgement."

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#2 posted 03-04-2015 03:24 PM

Who ever is selling those must be high. They’re $82 from amazon. Lol.

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#3 posted 03-04-2015 03:52 PM

So why does LeeValley sell them for $129?!

-- Colorado Springs, CO

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#4 posted 03-04-2015 04:00 PM



So why does LeeValley sell them for $129?!

- LucasWoods

Good Question.

they are 129 at Woodcraft as well.
Suppose Amazon can ‘afford’ to sell at a lower % margin, and decide that making 100 pennies is just as good as making a dollar off one sale?

I got the Lie Nielsen chisel set…. direct from Lie Nielsen, and the cost was more than they cost at Woodcraft.

Now I see that Woodcraft no longer sells Lie Nielson stuff on line.

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#5 posted 03-04-2015 04:00 PM


So why does LeeValley sell them for $129?!

- LucasWoods

Because Lee Valley has higher overhead expenses. Any company that has physical locations has to deal with this competing with Amazon. Rent, utilities, payroll, carrying costs for inventory, etc, are all higher for a physical store and eat into the profits. Out of curiosity, I looked up what that set would cost if my company bought direct from Stanley and there is no way we could sell them at the Amazon price. Retail in our stores would have to be much closer to Lee Valley’s just to pay the bills.

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#6 posted 03-04-2015 04:10 PM

Wow. Thank you for the info I wanted to make sure I didn’t purchase a lower steel quality version or something.

-- Colorado Springs, CO

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#7 posted 03-04-2015 04:45 PM

Grab it from Amazon. That’s a great price. I believe I paid something like $25-30 or so for my single 1/8” Sweetheart chisel.

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#8 posted 03-04-2015 04:49 PM



I got the Lie Nielsen chisel set…. direct from Lie Nielsen,
- DrDirt

Used a cheap Irvwin Marples set for a while and opted for the Narex set instead.

So tell me, are they really that much better than everything else?

-- Everything is a prototype thats why its one of a kind!!

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#9 posted 03-04-2015 05:14 PM

Never used the Narex or Lie Nielsen’s, but I can state unequivocally that comparing my Two Cherries chisels with the Stanley Bailey’s I also have is like night and day. Steel quality is the main difference, but balance and feel are also significantly better.

For someone who hasn’t used any chisels before, the Bailey’s are probably fine, but I haven’t touched them since getting the Two Cherries and a “set” of vintage socket chisels. Better feel + better steel=better results & more enjoyment.

-- "Good judgement is the result of experience. A lot of experience is the result of poor judgement."

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#10 posted 03-04-2015 06:04 PM

Yeah I have heard bad things about the stanley baileys that’s why I went with the 750’s they seem to have solid reviews except for the occasional chisel needing more work than normal to flatten the back.

-- Colorado Springs, CO

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#11 posted 03-04-2015 06:18 PM

I got the Lie Nielsen chisel set…. direct from Lie Nielsen,
- DrDirt

Used a cheap Irvwin Marples set for a while and opted for the Narex set instead.

So tell me, are they really that much better than everything else?

- rwe2156

than EVERYTHING else…. no.

If you actually have the old stanley 750’s you have basically the same tool.

Compared to Narex standard they are better. Don’t know what set you got, but a set of 6 Narex bench chisels at highland WW is on sale for 49.99
http://www.highlandwoodworking.com/narex-chisels.aspx

I like the socket chisel better than the tangs for use with a mallet..

for sure a 50 dollar chisel is better than a 9 dollar one. At some point you close the gap and it is comfort and usage

The are all the same for the first couple of dovetails…. then you see which ones take the pounding, and stay sharp. part of my motivation was to buy American, but that wallet busting philosophy has its limitations too.

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#12 posted 03-04-2015 07:44 PM

That’s a good deal on those chisels..Heck that’s cheaper than you can get four vintage 750’s for on ebay most of the time..

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