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03-02-2015 11:11 PM

Topic tags/keywords: jwp-208hh pm-15hh planer

I am wondering if anybody would offer some comments on the Jet 208HH. The reviewers on Amazon are very positive regarding the 208HH but otherwise there’s not a lot of info out there about it. It sure looks a lot like the PM 209HH other than a few small details. Then it’s only a couple hundred more than the PM-15HH for which there is a lot of info. One reviewer says that the Jet has a Byrd cutterhead just like the Powermatics.

From what I see it’s not that much heavier than the 15HH, though I would need to add a mobile base. When buying heavy tools from Amazon in the past I’ve had good results; their shippers always put the item in the garage for me. So that might not be a big deal.

I am not really a serious woodworker, but I’d like to get more into it, and a 20-inch spiral-head planer seems like something I could use forever and never grow out of. I’d love to hear some thoughts on that machine, the 15-inch, whether I should stick with my DW733 (that currently needs about $65 worth of parts), etc. I have a small-ish shop (22×20) but it’s not a garage and has a lot of storage space around it so I can make better use of the space. Thanks in advance!


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#1 posted 03-02-2015 11:21 PM



I am not really a serious woodworker, but I d like to get more into it, and a 20-inch spiral-head planer seems like something I could use forever and never grow out of. I d love to hear some thoughts on that machine, the 15-inch, whether I should stick with my DW733 (that currently needs about $65 worth of parts), etc. I have a small-ish shop (22×20) but it s not a garage and has a lot of storage space around it so I can make better use of the space. Thanks in advance!
- soob

Well, if money is no object I would agree, a 20” spiral would be 1 and done, but your comment about not being a serious woodworker, makes me wonder how often you’ve found yourself limited by the size of the DW733. You might want to consider putting a bit into the DW733, selling it on CL, and going to the DW735 which is a great machine and then look at some of the other really slick tools that are out there, I have dreams of owning a Festool Domino one day!!!

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#2 posted 03-03-2015 12:29 AM

Honestly, not very much. But then I’ve been buying lumber and doing little stuff. Thing is, my old man’s got a small sawmill so I could conceivably get lots of wide, thick, heavy boards if I really wanted them. Not sure what I’d do with them though. And good hardwood logs are hard to find around here in larger widths anyway. I could get lots of wide oak boards, though, for sure.

You never know, though. The main reason I am considering the Jet is that it’s just a couple hundred bucks more than the 15” Powermatic I was planning to buy.

From what I’ve gathered the differences between the PM and the Jet 20” HH planers is:

The 20” PM has a longer bed, a built-in mobile base, and comes with a slow-speed gear and chain set. Its cutterhead either has 100 or 124 (IIRC, depending on the source) compared with the ~90 on the Jet. So they don’t have the same cutterhead despite what the Amazon reviewer implied (though it may still be a Byrd cutterhead, I don’t know).

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#3 posted 03-04-2015 03:44 AM

Oh, before someone quotes me on that, I notice that the PM 20” HH planer also claims to use a few more amps for its motor. So they might be different too.

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#4 posted 03-10-2015 03:17 AM

Well I ordered the Jet notwithstanding the paucity of comments here. I was about to get the 20” Powermatic but I figured it wasn’t worth it given the negative comments about its mobile base and the glowing reviews of the Jet. I could always buy the slow-speed gear set separately if that proves to be an issue but the reviewers of the Jet say it isn’t.

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#5 posted 03-10-2015 03:25 AM

I don’t know about the 20” machines, but in the 15” category, the comparable Jet and Powermatic models are practically identical except for the paint job. I think Powermatic buyers generally have higher expectations since it’s supposed to be the “gold standard.”

Anyway, congrats on the new machine…I’m sure you’ll be very happy with it!

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#6 posted 03-10-2015 03:46 AM

Ah, thanks. A smart guy I know once told me to just go ahead and buy the best thing you expect to need since, when you’re young money’s not that big a deal in the long run. It was in the context of a house—something that’s hard to afford today would be easy in five years, and you’d be kicking yourself if you didn’t get the best one you could have afforded at the time. Then again I have spent a LOT of money recently, and I just signed a $20k contract to replace my roof last week! Ugh.

I went around and measured every piece of furniture I could find to see if the 20” would be a useful upgrade—seems like it would. There is so much stuff that’s in the 20-22” range, though, it makes me wonder why they don’t make them just a little larger.

Powermatic and Jet fly so fast and loose with their specs on the machines that it seems to be impossible to tell what the real differences are. Jet doesn’t have consistent statements about its cutterhead, amps, weight, the length of the cast-iron extensions, etc. These are the sort of things I would have liked to know for sure so I could make a definite comparison. But I live in the boonies (relatively speaking) and can’t just go see them side-by-side in a showroom. What made me go with the 20” Jet was that I was sure it would be better in nearly every respect than the 15” Powermatic for only about $265 more. The Jet needs a 30-amp circuit (or is it 40?! Who knows? They don’t tell you!) but that’s no big deal for me.

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#7 posted 03-10-2015 02:03 PM

I looked on the Jet website at these

15” 3 hp. 11 amps

20” 5 hp. 27 amps

The 20” Jet is a heavy beast and will last you a long time.

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#8 posted 03-10-2015 02:43 PM

The stats are all over the place. Lots of sources for the Jet are apparently for the models with rollers instead of cast iron extensions. I think that explains why some say it’s ~600lbs and some ~800lbs. All of the sources give the dimensions as if it didn’t have table extensions. Some say it has a 4” dust port, some say 5”.

The website’s front page says 27 amps. The manual says 23 amps. http://content.jettools.com/assets/manuals/708528_man_EN.pdf

18 amps according to CPO and some other retailers: http://www.cpojettools.com/jet-708544-jwp-208hh-1--20-in--5-hp-1-phase-helical-head-planer/jetn708544,default,pd.html?cgid=jet-planers

The “brochure” states that them minimum planning DEPTH is 6 3/4”. Is this thing a planer or a wood chipper? Hah. http://content.jettools.com/assets/sellsheets/708544_SS_EN.pdf

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#9 posted 03-19-2015 03:11 AM

I ordered the planer from Woodcraft. It was backordered for a few days, but it went out this week. They apparently forgot to tell the shipping company that liftgate option was included, so they wanted a $70 check from me to take it out of the truck. I am now waiting for that to be cleared up. Oh, well.

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#10 posted 03-20-2015 02:20 PM

They got that cleared up, and it should be delivered today. I’m excited!

Also, my house has been reroofed and there’s going to be a heavy rain tonight. I’m excited!

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