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Forum topic by Rayne posted 02-28-2015 03:23 PM 1089 views 0 times favorited 13 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Rayne

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02-28-2015 03:23 PM

Topic tags/keywords: question jig miter saw

Hello fellow LJ’s,

I’ve been debating for the past 2 weeks about upgrading my miter saw to a SCMS (sliding compound miter saw) and was JUST about to pull the trigger when I realized that a crosscut sled probably performs better for wider stock than the SCMS. I’ve seen people just drool over the Festool Kapex, yet a good crosscut sled seems to be all anyone needs and then use a miter saw for compound rough cuts and moldings, or just cutting down super long pieces to be properly cut at the table saw. What are your thoughts on this as of today? Previous topics dating back to 2010 and 2011 were found, but I’m not sure they are all completely valid today, but from my perspective, it still seems to hold as I just made my realization. I’d appreciate any feedback and if it’s really necessary to upgrade the miter saw if you have a good crosscut sled.


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MrRon

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#1 posted 02-28-2015 04:47 PM

I have a sled and a miter saw and that does everything I need a saw for. For perfect xcuts, you can’t beat a sled. Save your money

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Mark Davisson

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#2 posted 02-28-2015 05:01 PM

I use a table saw and sled exclusively. Don’t own a miter saw. The only times I wish I had a miter saw are when I’m needing to make precision cuts or repeatable cuts on very long stock.

-- I'm selfless because it feels so good!

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#3 posted 02-28-2015 05:10 PM

My DeWalt SCMS with a 3rd party laser is accurate and dependable. But, for accurate cuts in small pieces I will turn to my crosscut sled. In either case it is the quality of the tool (SCMS v. Sled) that will determine the accuracy.

If your current miter saw will handle the width of stock you need to cut, stay with it and put the effort into a precise sled.

-- Jesse, Saint Louis, Missouri

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mramseyISU

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#4 posted 02-28-2015 05:31 PM

It depends on what you’re doing. I have a SCMS and it take up a ton of room and I hardly ever use it. When I was doing some remodeling and cutting studs I used it a ton but now it just sits there making me wish it was smaller or not a slider.

-- Trust me I'm an engineer.

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Rayne

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#5 posted 02-28-2015 08:31 PM

I appreciate everyone’s feedback. I am going to hold off and just use my sled for the wide stock and continue to use my CMS for longer stocks. I do have to make a minor adjustment to my sled, but that’s easy enough.
So, with that said…what’s the craziness about the Kapex if the miter saw can be outdone by the sled in most cases?

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jerryminer

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#6 posted 02-28-2015 09:03 PM

The Kapex, as with SCMS’s in general, is a “finish carpentry” tool, more than a “cabinetmaking” tool. If you’re cutting the trim for a house, it’s terrific. For furniture-making, I would (and do) stick with the sled

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#7 posted 02-28-2015 09:37 PM

I have a 12” SCMS that makes 14”,90° crosscuts & 12”, 45° crosscuts out of the box. It will also make 16”,90° crosscuts with a homemade jig that isn’t hard to make. Has far as accuracy goes I cut these tabletops with it. Accurate, repetitive cuts were required.

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OSU55

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#8 posted 02-28-2015 10:21 PM

Used an SCMS for a while, it’s now in storage. Between sleds and miter gauge the TS does everything I need.

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Roger

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#9 posted 03-01-2015 01:08 PM

Crosscut sled for sure is way more affordable, and it’ll make wider cuts. That’s simple wallet math in my book.

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MinnesotaMarty

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#10 posted 03-01-2015 01:09 PM

I have never used a sled on a TS. The reason for me is I tend to need to cut long material with a miter on an end. I have watch William Ng video on making a sled and if his is not accurate I don’t what is. When I get caught up on the list of projects setting up a new shop entails I will build the Ng sled. I can see where for smaller pieces the sled is the ticket.

-- I can see the cheese heads from here and it is great.

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dhazelton

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#11 posted 03-01-2015 01:27 PM

You’re not going to crosscut a 12 ft board easily with a sled, but if you never do that then you don’t need a sliding miter saw.

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Fred Hargis

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#12 posted 03-01-2015 01:37 PM

To me the SCMS is a construction tool. (just my opinion)

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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MinnesotaMarty

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#13 posted 03-02-2015 12:09 AM



To me the SCMS is a construction tool. (just my opinion)

- Fred Hargis

So is a table saw, a drill, a router, random orbital sander, biscuit jointer and a router plus other tools too numerous to mention. The notion the good finish carpenters are not woodworkers is a little disheartening to me. Being one for more years than I care to mention. The difficulty in finish carpentry is that our “workshop” needs to move around yet we have to maintain levels of quality that need to match ideal conditions. A good slide compound miter saw is accurate is set up and maintained properly. It is a tool that has a specific use that is valuable when used correctly. Not trying to pick an argument here but just need to eliminate some stereotypes.

-- I can see the cheese heads from here and it is great.

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