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05-22-2009 08:29 PM

I am about to build a 56” high craftsman bookcase with glass door inserts. I have a set of rail and stile bits but am wondering if the joint is strong enough for doors of that size. Perhaps mitered half lap joints held together with pins? Any thoughts or observations?

Thank you, Kimball


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#1 posted 05-22-2009 10:53 PM

How wide and tall is each door or is there only one?

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#2 posted 05-23-2009 12:12 AM

There will be 2 doors w/ a center stile between them. The doors will be 22 1/2×56 and I am conscerned about sag w/ a conventional cabinet rail and stile router bit.
Kimball

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#3 posted 05-23-2009 12:15 AM

Correction: door size will be 22 1/2” x 50” ( overall height of cabinet is 56”)
Kimball

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#4 posted 05-23-2009 03:10 AM

You can add floating tenons to the cope and stick if your concerned about there strength

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#5 posted 05-23-2009 03:25 AM

mitered half lap are strong enough.. i would go with Jim, loose tennons. another very strong joint that you don’t see much anymore is saddle joints.. twice the glue surface as half lap.. very easy to cut.. i use them on aquarium stands where i need to support up to a ton of water so they are strong

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#6 posted 05-23-2009 08:02 AM

John, What is a saddle joint?

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#7 posted 05-25-2009 01:57 AM

In the craftsman style aren’t you suppose to use a mortise and tenon joint or floating tenon if you like that better?

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#8 posted 06-01-2009 10:05 PM

I don’t know what I was thinking. I have been using rail and stile bits for so long, I forgot about old fashioned joinnery (slower but better). Thanks you wonderful wood chucks.
Kimball

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#9 posted 06-02-2009 08:57 PM

M&T or floating tenons would be best. Doors that size should be about 1” thick to avoid racking when they are being opened. Is the glass insert full length or divided lights?

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#10 posted 06-06-2009 02:13 AM

Hey Vincent,
I like the green and green influence in your picture but will be using Mesquite instead of Ebony because I live in the desert and Mesquite is a beautiful wood. The glass will be full panel.

Hey Topmax Vincent picture depicts a saddle joint.
Thanks, Kimball

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#11 posted 06-15-2009 05:15 PM

It is also called a bridle joint or open mortise and tenon joint. That should explain it.

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#12 posted 06-15-2009 05:57 PM

hey skeeter,
good-o
Kimball

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#13 posted 09-20-2012 06:18 AM

Bookcase provides the perfect place to display your favorite books. Glass door with wood shelves provides classic style that will compliment any room. I think you should use a double craftsman bookcases.
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