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Forum topic by kimball posted 188 days ago 344 views 0 times favorited 12 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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kimball

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188 days ago

I am about to build a 56” high craftsman bookcase with glass door inserts. I have a set of rail and stile bits but am wondering if the joint is strong enough for doors of that size. Perhaps mitered half lap joints held together with pins? Any thoughts or observations?

Thank you, Kimball

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Kindlingmaker

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188 days ago

How wide and tall is each door or is there only one?

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kimball

51 posts in 194 days


188 days ago

There will be 2 doors w/ a center stile between them. The doors will be 22 1/2×56 and I am conscerned about sag w/ a conventional cabinet rail and stile router bit.
Kimball

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kimball

51 posts in 194 days


188 days ago

Correction: door size will be 22 1/2” x 50” ( overall height of cabinet is 56”)
Kimball

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a1Jim

16926 posts in 474 days


187 days ago

You can add floating tenons to the cope and stick if your concerned about there strength

-- Jim from Heirloom Woodshop Southern Oregon

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johnpoolesc

246 posts in 257 days


187 days ago

mitered half lap are strong enough.. i would go with Jim, loose tennons. another very strong joint that you don’t see much anymore is saddle joints.. twice the glue surface as half lap.. very easy to cut.. i use them on aquarium stands where i need to support up to a ton of water so they are strong

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TopamaxSurvivor

3040 posts in 572 days


187 days ago

John, What is a saddle joint?

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NorthGaMan

47 posts in 258 days


185 days ago

In the craftsman style aren’t you suppose to use a mortise and tenon joint or floating tenon if you like that better?

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kimball

51 posts in 194 days


178 days ago

I don’t know what I was thinking. I have been using rail and stile bits for so long, I forgot about old fashioned joinnery (slower but better). Thanks you wonderful wood chucks.
Kimball

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Vincent Nocito

155 posts in 260 days


177 days ago

M&T or floating tenons would be best. Doors that size should be about 1” thick to avoid racking when they are being opened. Is the glass insert full length or divided lights?

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kimball

51 posts in 194 days


173 days ago

Hey Vincent,
I like the green and green influence in your picture but will be using Mesquite instead of Ebony because I live in the desert and Mesquite is a beautiful wood. The glass will be full panel.

Hey Topmax Vincent picture depicts a saddle joint.
Thanks, Kimball

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skeeter

78 posts in 237 days


164 days ago

It is also called a bridle joint or open mortise and tenon joint. That should explain it.

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kimball

51 posts in 194 days


164 days ago

hey skeeter,
good-o
Kimball

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