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Forum topic by JoeinDE posted 05-22-2009 08:28 PM 1490 views 0 times favorited 2 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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JoeinDE

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05-22-2009 08:28 PM

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I am still a novice wwer. I inherited this tool from my father-in-law. I found out today that it belonged originally to my mother-in-law’s grandfather. So we have estimated that the plane is over 100 years old. I have tried once, unsuccessfully, to set up and use this tool. My mother-in-law also figures that this is the original blade (basaed on some paint that her dad put on the plane). Pictures of Plane

It could be that I just don’t have the blade sharpened very well; I just recently got a grinder. It could also be that I don’t know what I am doing. So here are the questions

1. Would I be able to find a replacement blade for this planer?
2. The plane is not flat (picture 7). There is a slight upward arc to the surface of the plane. Is this a defect or is this the way that this plane should be?
3. What should that left-to-right toggle do for this tool (picture 5 right above the back handle)?
4. Is this a jack plane or a smoothing plane?
Thanks for the help.

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marcb

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#1 posted 05-22-2009 08:46 PM

Victor was a line of planes made by Leonard Bailey (the guy who invented all the designs everyone copies today basically) If its really old its from the 1870’s other wise it’s from the mid 1930’s

I’m not familiar with the 1870’s planes. The 1930’s was a line produced by Stanley similar to the “Handyman” line produced later on.

A Hock blade would probably fit if you want a new one. Sharpening is a skill you will need regardless so you might want to practice on that blade and get it right.

For sharpening I recommend a line of videos produced under the Norton name and hosted by Joel the owner of Toolsforworkingwood.com Great easy to reproduce free hand sharpening method. Buy some stones and 1 dvd and you are set for life (avoid at all cost the trap of a grinding guide, honing guide and any other guide, the old saying about fishing gear applies to woodworking tools. Some stuff is designed to catch fish, others to catch fishermen).

The left right toggle gets the blade straight so you take a consistent shaving instead of thick on one side and non existent on the other.

Jack planes are ~14” long if its shorter than that (9 or 10” long) its a smoother

As for the arch it’ss probably worn from use. You can flatten it with smooth movement on a flat surface on sandpaper, it takes practice to not dub the sides, you don’t need perfect like many people insist on to get good results.

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#2 posted 05-22-2009 09:12 PM

It’s not the best plane, but as you mention has sentimental value and that’s something to keep the tool.

Planes like this were produced with some features that made of them tools of lees quality, more intended for homeowners, the crafty weekend guy or contractors. The lever you mention, lateral adjustment lever (moves the blade side to side) is proof of this, built with one bent piece to lower the production costs, different of the stanley type with three components.

It’s a 14” jackplane, #5. Normally the sides of the plane (Checks) are straight, so must be something wrong with that “slight upward arc” you mention…....do you have a picture of the base?

The blade, 2” wide, could be replaced with an stanley one, you can find many at Ebay, I would reccoment the old ones, “SW” -sweet heart- or a “V” logo.

Sharpening?
That is going to take some of your time, to learn the basics. People try a bunch of methods and systems and the whole crowd ends using the same three stones….
There is a simple method about using a piece of glass (1/4”~1/2” thick) with different sand papers griths, attached to the glas with Super 77.

I highly recomend you a honing guide. would save you lots offrustration.

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