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188 days ago |
Topic tags/keywords: hand tools chisels planes plane chisel Hey there everybody! I am new to the world of hand tools and I am currently looking for a good set of japanese chisels and I would like to invest in a couple hand planes. I am thinking that a good set of planes to start out with would be a low angle block plane, a number 5 and a number 7. A for the chisels, I’m thinking that I would like to start with a few of the most common sizes and then go from there… If anyone has any help that can be offered I would appreciate it greatly! Thanks, Spencer -- -Spencer, Gilbert Az (http://www.azwoodshop.com) |
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188 days ago |
you have the right answer for your question. yeap, those are the best to start with…....is just a matter of personal taste, in my opinion I would change that #5 for a #4, sometimes is more handy. I use a Bevel up Jointer, it’s a better tool over the traditional stanley type when working with figured woods. I have been wanting also a set of Japanese chisels, they are realy sound chisels, but they are pricey too. -- Francisco Luna, San Francisco Bay Area. |
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188 days ago |
A good Dozuki saw. -- John |
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188 days ago |
Yeah, I’ve been pricing some out and they seem to be quite expensive but from what I’ve heard, they are worth it… If you have any other suggestions please share… (ie. where to buy, read reviews, etc.) -- -Spencer, Gilbert Az (http://www.azwoodshop.com) |
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188 days ago |
Hey Spencer -- Jim from Heirloom Woodshop Southern Oregon |
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188 days ago |
Called “Z” and it is $42 at the woodworking store with the “blue” sign. -- John |
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188 days ago |
I go along with woodspar but a Ryoba saw -- Gary, East TX -- The longest journey begins with a single step. |
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188 days ago |
Ryoba saw for sure, the Gyokucho replaceable blade saws at japanwoodworker.com are a great performer for the money. I wouldn’t recommend the more expensive hand made saws until you have destroyed a couple of the replaceable blades though. That would really suck on a $250 saw. $250 card scrapers shudder. #4 over the #5 probably. As far as chisels are concerned, the Japanese chisels come with a hefty price tag before you see any marked improvement over western makers. I have some Matsumura blue steel chisels that are $50-65 a pop, and they are actually not as good as my Sorby chisels (about the same price). Those Sorbys are amazing, highly recommended. Hirsch are pretty decent also if you tend to beat the hell out of normal handled mortise chisels. Grab some card scrapers from LeeValley, and a spokeshave or four from pecktool.com, Also consider a bit and brace (the original cordless screwdriver) you can really put some torque on those. Japanese kana are nice, but hard to find a decent cost/performance ratio. I have a really tiny Hong Kong style plane that comes in handy when the normal block plane is a little much for the task (flushing up veneer splines, doweling plugs, etc.). I’m sure I could think of more things, but I’m starting to fall asleep at the keys. Have fun doing handwork, I sure do. Something more organic about the way projects turn out. -- Ooo, er. |
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188 days ago |
I use the $15 dovetail saw on Amazon.com (I think its’ 2 Cherries)... requires some work but after you tune it up, it cuts real nice. |
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188 days ago |
Haveing just started the hand tool thing a couple of points came up. One is that we spend a large amount of time talking about planes when in fact a good set of chisels and hand saws are far more important to your toolkit. If you can,t cut a straight line or pare down to one then all that lovely work you just did with your mega buck handplane ain,t worth jack. Check my workshop and you,ll see what i,m working with. When I upgrade the first thing I will replace are the saws then the chisels with the handplanes third. I,m totally enjoying the hand tool experience, hope you do to. -- if the hand is not working it is not a pure hand |
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188 days ago |
I’m with Kiwi, planes are neat, and I love them but you get far more use out of chisels and hand saws. Good rip and cross cut back saws make hand cutting dove tails, and tenons enjoyable. Chisels are a must to clean up those joints, A decent shoulder plane would be good if you do a lot of tenons. If I had to start over I would get a nice dovetail saw, a nice small (12 Inch max) cross cut back saw then all the chisels I could find. Standard bench style, the tougher square style and several mortise (1/8, 1/4, 3/8) Card scrapers fall in there somewhere, but any of those will do no need to be really picky. I’ve also found my recently picked up scrub and spoke shave to be extremely useful. They’re the type of tools that you don’t know what you would do with them until you have them. Like a bandsaw what I actually do with them is very different from what I saw myself needing it for. Then get a jointer plane, a No 3 or 4 smoother and a low angle block, a 60 1/2 is a great small block. |
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188 days ago |
I’d add another vote for the #4 over the #5. it’s lighter , and for smoothing boards will be easier on your arms. as far as saws – I’m a fan of japanese pull saws, a duzuki for dovetails and ryoba for ripping/crosscutting lumber are a good combination. as far as chisels – it depends on what you’re going to use them for. -- When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route. |
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188 days ago |
Let’s put it this way: Handtools I can’t live without: 1. Starret 6” combination square. Love this tool! Planes: All this work poorly without a sound workbench with a Vise. -- Francisco Luna, San Francisco Bay Area. |
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188 days ago |
Thanks Guys!!! I see that I need to do some more research… -- -Spencer, Gilbert Az (http://www.azwoodshop.com) |
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