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Straightening of reclaimed oak barrel staves

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Forum topic by Ian Balt posted 190 days ago 502 views 0 times favorited 10 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Ian Balt

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190 days ago

I desperately require assistance – cannot find a specific topic on the internet how to straighten reclaimed oak red wine barrel staves. I have a dream of a spectacular wine barrel hardwood floor for our dining room. Your valued advice would be appreciated.

Fraternaly yours,

Ian Balt
Saldanha
West Coast – South Africa

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Kindlingmaker

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190 days ago

I am could be wrong here but I don’t think you can get them flat enough for a floor.

-- Never board, always knotty, lots of growth rings

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Julian

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190 days ago

They were steam bent to get that shape. Maybe you could steam bend them straight again?

-- Julian, Park Forest, IL

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drgoodwood

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190 days ago

Hi Ian:

I live in Kentucky, USA where we make about 800,000 barrels a year, mostly from white oak.

I use reclaimed barrel wood in my rustic arts studio. Within some limitations, you can steam bend the staves to straigthen them. Then they can be resawn and planed for use. Our bourbon barrel staves are about one inch thick and are charred on the inside. After processing, they will be about 5/8 Inch thick or less.

I steam them for about 90 minutes. Even after straightening, they can be a little wavy. The planing can help with the flattening. The barrel heads are made of flatter wood and might work better for your purposes.

Bourbon barrel staves are about 36” long, so the curve may be more pronounced then on a larger wine barrel where the staves will be longer.

It can be a lot of work.

Good luck.

-- Randy, Rustic Artisan, a family tradition. (No PM's - auto-deleted.) - "I am a seeker, not a follower."

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Elaine

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190 days ago

Steam bending back in shape. Google furniture companies that use barrel staves, you should find the answer there.

-- Elaine, Conover, NC

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a1Jim

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190 days ago

Interesting I didn’t think they could be straightened enough to be usable

-- Jim from Heirloom Woodshop Southern Oregon

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rhett

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190 days ago

Even if they can be somewhat straightened, by the time the wood fibers have been stretched/compressed to make the stave, and then restretched/compressed in the opposite direction for flatness, I would not trust the wood to stay flat on a floor over time. Too much messing with the actual structure of the wood. JMHO

-- http://www.efcabineture.com/ You can be tired, or you can be broke, but you should never be tired and broke.

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Gary

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190 days ago

You might just have to bite the dust and settle for some of that old native wood like Padauk or Babinga…. By the way, do you know of anyone in your part of the world that has done what you are wanting to do?

-- Gary, DeKalb Texas

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samcobb

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161 days ago

www.fontenay.us
They cannot be straightened. They must be resawn then pressed to a backing material, otherwise, when they gain moisture, they will curl again and lift from the floor.

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winecountrywhimsy

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18 days ago

There is also an issue with the taper of the staves. Even if you get them flat, you can’t just lay them side by side because the sides are not straight. You would have to cut every stave.

Provenance Winery near Rutherford, CA in the Napa Valley has a floor made from wine barrels but I think they used the barrel heads. I have seen other wineries with wood ceilings and floors made from large wine casks that have straight sides instead of the tapered staves.

Here is a link to a company that has figured it out. http://www.fontenaywood.com/products.cfm

Good Luck

Todd

-- Todd @ winecountrywhimsy Sonoma County, CA

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CaptainSkully

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18 days ago

We loved Provenance, especially the Morris chairs made out of wine staves. We’re members at Rosenblum in Alameda, part of the corporate family. I’m currently wrestling with wine staves with my barrel stave wine rack project.

-- You can't control the wind, but you can trim your sails

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